Author Topic: Annoying Orange is going to win 2016.  (Read 7992 times)

Nationalism is handicapped and has almost never resulted in a net positive for the globe.

lolwut? Nationalism is arguably the only thing that makes countries successful. If you don't love your country then what are you living there for? It has turned countries that were shambling ruins into world powers.

lolwut? Nationalism is arguably the only thing that makes countries successful. If you don't love your country then what are you living there for? It has turned countries that were shambling ruins into world powers.
So I could create a country out of iron filings, give it nationalism, and abandon it, and nobody would take over it/destroy it? Perfect.

So I could create a country out of iron filings, give it nationalism, and abandon it, and nobody would take over it/destroy it? Perfect.

Because good leaders never die and get taken over by other leaders that were even better.

lolwut? Nationalism is arguably the only thing that makes countries successful. If you don't love your country then what are you living there for? It has turned countries that were shambling ruins into world powers.
I don't care how much power my country has. I care that the people in and outside my county are happy (and if a country has pride in that, that's fine.) That doesn't require being a world power and aggresion. Take Norway, for example.

And no, I don't really love my country and ever since the end of the Cold War (and even during it we did done malicious stuff) I believe it has had a primarily negative effect on other countries. The only reason I live here is because I was born here. Granted, I am glad I live in a Western democracy that respects our rights, but we could go a lot better.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 07:14:38 PM by TristanLuigi »

and outside my county are happy

Why would you care how people who don't live in your country feel? You have no control over them and there is nothing you can do about except maybe bullying their country into doing stuff.

If Annoying Orange wins we're forgeted for sure.
What people dont realise is he is not bad at all. They jus- ok lets not get into that

If Annoying Orange wins we're forgeted for sure.

Whats Annoying Oranges plans for Brazil?

Good idea. Let's label all the Annoying Orange supporters and put them in concentration camps like the national socialists did to jews.
Lets label all of the Annoying Orange haters and put them in zoo's

Why would you care how people who don't live in your country feel? You have no control over them and there is nothing you can do about except maybe bullying their country into doing stuff.
Humanitarian aid. War is sometimes, but rarely, justified in the name of humanitarianism (see WW2).

And I care because I have something called empathy. It's this thing where decent human beings care about other decent human beings. Seems to be something Annoying Orange lacks. Instead of  treating illegals like scum, just cut out red tape and allow easier legalization, and suddenly we have more taxes as prospective immigrants no longer have a mountain of paperwork to get through with the entire country against them and are much more likely to do it legally. 
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 07:20:37 PM by TristanLuigi »

Humanitarian aid. War is sometimes, but rarely, justified in the name of humanitarianism (see WW2).

And I care because I have something called empathy. It's this thing where decent human beings care about other decent human beings.

Humanitarian aid isn't going to help when the government of that country neglects its people. At that point your just wasting resources unless you take over and annex that country.

Humanitarian aid isn't going to help when the government of that country neglects its people. At that point your just wasting resources unless you take over and annex that country.
War is sometimes, but rarely, justified in the name of humanitarianism (see WW2).

Whats Annoying Oranges plans for Brazil?
Not for Brazil techically, but if you elect a dictator as a president in USA we will most likely get a WW3 if stuff's gone real.

Humanitarian aid isn't going to help when the government of that country neglects its people. At that point your just wasting resources unless you take over and annex that country.
That's one instance in which war may be justified if they're committing crimes against humanity. But wars like WWI and generally every single European war, the Vietnam War, the Korean War (which the North Koreans started - our defense was justified) were entirely unjustified.


That's one instance in which war may be justified if they're committing crimes against humanity. But wars like WWI and generally every single European war, the Vietnam War, the Korean War (which the North Koreans started - our defense was justified) were entirely unjustified.

That didn't work out so well in Iraq. Long story short don't mess with other peoples stuff. That's their responsibility not yours. You can't help people who wont help themselves.

Not for Brazil techically, but if you elect a dictator as a president in USA we will most likely get a WW3 if stuff's gone real.

Congress will still work the way it always has. Annoying Orange will have the same power as every other president. He will just be louder. And maybe not even that.

That didn't work out so well in Iraq. Long story short don't mess with other peoples stuff. That's their responsibility not yours. You can't help people who wont help themselves.
Alright. We don't have to fight wars. But if people are willing to take help, as a race we have a duty to help.