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Overwatch Megathread
BluetoothBoy:
--- Quote from: Headcrab Zombie on November 05, 2016, 03:52:26 PM ---There were plenty of heroes that were obnoxious to fight against at release, and people cried "nerf!" (Mei and Bastion come to mind) until people figured out how to counter them.
Sombra will probably be obnoxious to fight against at the start, but once people figure out how to fight against her, it'll be fine.
She might need a few tweaks like Ana did after release, but Blizzard is a good dev, I doubt they were release a hero that is as broken as some people thing it'll be
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Agreed.
Honestly, I'm just excited to play her. I tend to be decent with this character type.
Renousim:
--- Quote from: RedGajin on November 05, 2016, 02:09:21 PM ---wait so guys
lets just go through this real quick
sombra can disable abilities
sombra can go invisible
bastions ability is to enter/exit turret mode
so, wouldnt sombra be able to basically insta kill any bastion now. its essentially pulling the same move as reaper, but bastion cant see you at all
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No, it cancels using abilities, for example if you hack a lucio he cant switch between speed and healing
Tayasaurus:
--- Quote from: RedGajin on November 05, 2016, 02:09:21 PM ---wait so guys
lets just go through this real quick
sombra can disable abilities
sombra can go invisible
bastions ability is to enter/exit turret mode
so, wouldnt sombra be able to basically insta kill any bastion now. its essentially pulling the same move as reaper, but bastion cant see you at all
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I don't think she'd instakill him but this is just another character on the roster of "characters Bastion has to deal with now".
Now Bastion is over-countered and needs some balance changes imo. I'm sure I'm the only one who thinks this being a Bastion main and everyone is still acting towards him based on their salt from the beta disaster.
But come on, on higher level play Bastion is barely a pick for anyone at all and when someone does pick them, everyone shuns the ever-loving forget out of them. Why even keep a character like Bastion at this stage when he's pretty much overall useless in comp. This is primarily why I play Bastion, because despite everyone being like "lel u just left click and get potg" that's actually NOT the case when the enemy team has remotely half a brain cell. Bastion Is basically stuck noob-stomping in lower levels and then is just forgotten about in higher play, which I don't think should be the case at all. Players in higher levels of play get mad at skilled Bastion players when they actually move around constantly and re-position themselves once their spot is compromised (something which every Bastion player should do). Even when you do really good as Bastion in an intense match but lose in the end, you become the scapegoat of your own team. "i.e. Bluh bluh, should have left the moment you locked Bastion in." Playing Bastion really brings out the team work in the enemy team as well, because people hate you so much that you pretty much aggro everyone's attention, which can be a good thing as serve as a distraction. It is in my HONEST opinion that Bastion is more classified as a "stealth" character because of how much you need to move and stay hidden until the line of sight is in your favor. Once everyone sees you or until the enemy widow ults its time to pack up and move again.
Again, the amount of counters for a Bastion is INSANE and probably more than any other character on the list that I can think of at the moment (please correct me if i'm wrong)
Bastion should be changed to be an always viable character to play but not overpowered nor become essential to the team chemistry. I think the devs are afraid to touch him though because of how sour people get about the character.
TL;DR: Bastion is an actually difficult character to play which means there's skill to apply. He needs balance changes pretty badly in his current state and the addition of Sombra is probably gonna make it worse unless the devs dare touch him.
Badger:
I actually like the idea of bringing back his shield, or maybe an ability that can pop one up like how dva's alt works.
that ability changes into repair when he's in recon mode
Tayasaurus:
--- Quote from: Badger on November 05, 2016, 04:30:19 PM ---I actually like the idea of bringing back his shield, or maybe an ability that can pop one up like how dva's ult works.
that ability changes into repair when he's in recon mode
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I don't think it should. If they did they should make it to where if its up then Bastion can't shoot. There's got to be a better way to balance him.