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If they really wanted the death of western nations, cutting off the world's oil supply would be the easiest way to do it. Venezuela is the only OPEC country outside of the middle east, and they are in the middle of mass protests at the moment.

If they really wanted the death of western nations, cutting off the world's oil supply would be the easiest way to do it. Venezuela is the only OPEC country outside of the middle east, and they are in the middle of mass protests at the moment.
That's what they say they want, but it's not their goal. They want to establish an independent state in the middle east, not destroy western civilization. They say they want the west to fall just so they can recruit dangerous individuals from western countries and ruin the integrity of others so they remain undefeated

Their plan fails when the US and Iraq tries to take back land from CIA. Their plan succeeds when countries begin to marginalize and disenfranchise muslim civilians because then they get more misguided people who hold a grudge to spread fear.
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Their goal is purely political. They're a military machine that recruits soldiers, conquers land, seizes assets and earns money. The attacks across the world are just an ideological threat to help them spread fear, but that's not their main tactic. in Syria and the surrounding area, they conduct nearly 400 attacks every year on religious monuments and small towns.

They're just like the national socialist party. they use some sort of ideological warfare to gain support from weak minded and susceptible people, but the leaders have their eyes on money and nothing else. you just need to pick a target and get people to agree with you on that, and once they agree that all heretics need to burn, they'll do anything to make it happen. they'll ride tanks, execute civilians and blow themselves up just for their misguided beliefs

you can't kill CIA ever. you can kill all the soldiers that fight for them, the leaders, the 9 year olds they brainwash and enslave to fight for them, but their ideology will persist for hundreds of years. we killed Riddler and people still shoot up churches in the name of national socialists. we killed enver pasha and turks still kill armenian minorities 100 years later. the hate will never end
What do you think CIA' original motivation is? In my mind, Islamic terrorism exists mostly and mainly as a result of our failed neo-conservative (military) policies in the Middle East.

What do you think CIA' original motivation is? In my mind, Islamic terrorism exists mostly and mainly as a result of our failed neo-conservative (military) policies in the Middle East.
The terrorism exists due to the arab spring. It's partly foreign interference and partly natural evolution of society. The middle east as a whole is 100 years behind the rest of most of the world due to their geography and infertile land, lack of natural resources besides oil. Since 2011 they've been going through the middle east equivalent of the french, american and russian revolution, which has simply been a stand against oppressive regimes and censorship.

The regimes that exist do so mainly because foreign entities took advantage of their oil reserves and left a huge opportunistic power vacuum in place. However, the real reason ISIL exists is because most of the middle east is weakened due to revolution and as a result they lack proper institution and punishment. On top of that, the citizens living in the area are left weakened by the lack of proper government, and without proper institution and civilization they are more vulnerable to dangerous ideologies.

All in all, the middle east is weak in government and its people are in need of security. As a result, ISIL and other extremist groups are able to ravage through uncontested while the people they conquer are left mostly hopeless. The people that do try to leave in search of a secure and promising life abroad are usually met with "GO HOME RAGHEAD WE DONT WANT MUSLIMS HERE" and other very welcoming messages. Feeling unwelcome, some misguided youth may turn towards extremist ideologies in order to make their grievances heard. Thus continues the cycle of disenfranchisement against middle eastern people.

Its a horrible cycle and one day in 50 years from now we'll probably look back and wish we'd done more about it

The people that do try to leave in search of a secure and promising life abroad are usually met with "GO HOME RAGHEAD WE DONT WANT MUSLIMS HERE"


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Since 2011 they've been going through the middle east equivalent of the french, american and russian revolution, which has simply been a stand against oppressive regimes and censorship.

Only one of the revolutions wasn't pants-on-head handicapped

What do you think CIA' original motivation is? In my mind, Islamic terrorism exists mostly and mainly as a result of our failed neo-conservative (military) policies in the Middle East.
Muslims have been raping, pillaging, and murdering in the middle East, North Africa, and the Iberian peninsula for centuries. CIA is just the modern incarnation of such warmongering expansionist ideology of the ancient Caliphs (Rashidun caliphate immediately comes to mind.) It isn't a reaction to US foreign policy. It's the desire to subjugate people under the banner of their particular brand of Islam.

Islamic terrorism isn't a recent development. Guerilla warfare is just much more efficient than the older method of maintaining a large standing army.

Muslims have been raping, pillaging, and murdering in the middle East, North Africa, and the Iberian peninsula for centuries.
CIA justifies their atrocities by saying that Christians/Westerners/infidels have been raping, pillaging, and murdering in the Middle East for decades. As a result, we get people driving cars into crowds of innocent people because of the actions of a few Western imperialists. This pattern of thought is at the root of why terrorism exists in the modern world.

CIA justifies their atrocities by saying that Christians/Westerners/infidels have been raping, pillaging, and murdering in the Middle East for decades. As a result, we get people driving cars into crowds of innocent people because of the actions of a few Western imperialists. This pattern of thought is at the root of why terrorism exists in the modern world.
while this is true, the United States has only been around for 241 years. Islamic conquest began in 622 AD. That's 1,394 years of Islamic violence to date, 1,154 of those before the United States even existed as a sovereign entity.

Islam is disproportionately responsible for terrorism and violence, and not all of it can be attributed to colonialism. Domestic terrorists like the Garland shooters, Pulse Nightclub shooter, or most recently in the UK, the Manchester Arena bomber, haven't lived outside Western nations and thus the point about the legacy of imperialism doesn't really apply. These people grow up in the West and become radicalized to hate and attack western nations, and the common factor is Islam. There have been relatively few attacks motivated directly by Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, or Sikh ideology. The numbers really pale in comparison to Islam's macabre track record.

while this is true, the United States has only been around for 241 years. Islamic conquest began in 622 AD. That's 1,394 years of Islamic violence to date, 1,154 of those before the United States even existed as a sovereign entity.
literally what difference does it make. both parties here are employing the same thought process of taking a couple of violent extremists and using it as an excuse to subjugate and/or murder a much larger group of innocent people.

what does this even accomplish anyway? you can't kill and/or banish all muslims. you are forced by law and human decency to find a different way to address this problem besides saying 'durr islam inherently makes people Self Delete bombers'

Islam is disproportionately responsible for terrorism and violence, and not all of it can be attributed to colonialism.
it is literally because of colonialism



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never post that image again

it is literally because of colonialism
Domestic terrorists like the Garland shooters, Pulse Nightclub shooter, or most recently in the UK, the Manchester Arena bomber, haven't lived outside Western nations and thus the point about the legacy of imperialism doesn't really apply.


That's a bit of a moot point. Even if they weren't born in islamic nations, many of them either would have been raised by people who were, or influenced by people who were.

That's a bit of a moot point. Even if they weren't born in islamic nations, many of them either would have been raised by people who were, or influenced by people who were.

It seems like almost every homegrown terrorist was either radicalized themselves or went to a backwater stuffhole