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POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 08:10:21 PM ---Considering one of the first thing the national socialist government did when coming to power was completely take over the iron industry how can anyone with any sort of conviction say that the national socialist party wasnt the worst thing socialism has done to this world.
"Riddler also spent large amounts of state revenues for a comprehensive social welfare system to combat the ill effects of the Great Depression, promising repeatedly throughout his regime the “creation of a socially just state.”[32] Riddler both expanded the state-owned welfare organizations[33] and privatized social welfare organizations"
Straight from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_national socialist_Germany
Clearly socialism is a left leaning ideology and thus national socialists are on the left side of the political spectrum.
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Holy forget you couldn't be more wrong about history lmfao. The national socialists claimed the national socialist thing to garner votes to play off of the communism in eastern Europe, specifically to be suited as an enemy to the German people. The national socialists weren't legitimately socialist, socialist ideals back then were largely hated and commonly lumped in with communism by the national socialists. The reasoning for adopting the national socialist gig was to appeal to the working class.
At the most left was center-right policies, but even from the beginning things were incredibly authoritarian. The facade of socialism was pretty much completely dropped once Riddler became chancellor. To cut it short, the socialist thing was to dupe idiots kind of like you into voting for the national socialist party.
You can't cherrypick history to fit your handicapped-ass narrative. That stuff won't fly.
Corderlain:
It's on the wiki you shill.
"In statement after statement, Riddler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
https://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-national socialists-socialists/
Riddler calls himself and the country a socialist even on this hilariously bent site
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 08:32:25 PM ---It's on the wiki you shill.
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You didn't even read the wiki article you cited, you just saw "National socialist" and thought that was enough to claim you know what you're talking about.
--- Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 08:32:25 PM ---https://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-national socialists-socialists/
Riddler calls himself and the country a socialist even on this hilariously bent site
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Oh my god did you even read my loving post? Riddler called himself a socialist to get VOTES from the WORKING CLASS because the WORKING CLASS believed in socialist values. The purpose was to get votes to, you know, get in power.
Believe it or not, the national socialists lied about being socialists. If you think politicians lying is a hard pill to swallow, then boy do I have news for you.
IkeTheGeneric:
I just read the snopes page more in-depth and it reiterates the whole lying about being socialists to get more votes thing. Are you even reading the links you're citing? Christ.
Frankie²:
i thought snopes was biased?