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| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on April 10, 2018, 12:03:38 AM ---I'd send it to you, but I'm not sure whether you can read considering you ignored everything I said just to call me a Fox News shill. --- End quote --- If there's a rationale for why the raid was illegal, I do want to read it. But also I'm preemptively assuming it isn't illegal since there's no way that a special counsel under that much public scrutiny would do something flagrantly illegal like that. There's probably some sort of reason for why the raid was permitted. |
| Darryl McKoy:
I thought this explained it pretty well --- Quote from: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/09/michael-cohen-fbi-raid-attorney-client-privilege/501564002/ ---"It’s very unusual for the Department of Justice to permit prosecutors to raid an attorney’s office and that’s because you want to be careful not to get privileged material," said Litman, who teaches at the UCLA School of Law and continues to practice at the law firm Constantine Cannon. In order to get the OK to raid Cohen's office, prosecutors would have had to get approval from high up — in this case from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — and demonstrate to a federal magistrate both probable cause and the need for a warrant instead of a subpoena (such as a concern that Cohen might destroy evidence), Litman explained. There will also be a "taint team" to examine everything before it is handed over to prosecutors to make sure that those conducting the case never see any material that might be "tainted" by attorney-client privilege. The only way the prosecution would be permitted to examine any material that might otherwise fall under the attorney-client umbrella is if it is determined to be part of crime jointly undertaken by the attorney and the client. But for the privilege to be nullified, Litman said the taint team would have to get the approval of the court to present the material to the prosecution. In order to fall under attorney-client protection, the documents just have to be related to Cohen dispensing legal advice or gathering information in order to give that advice, Litman said. But merely having an attorney involved does not guarantee the protection. "It can’t just be that somebody with the bar degree is in the general vicinity," Litman said. Based on his experience with cases involving issues of attorney-client privilege, Litman said is likely that the prosecution never sees 80% or more of the documents. --- End quote --- |
| Foxscotch:
--- Quote from: Darryl McKoy on April 09, 2018, 11:53:12 PM ---hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm --- End quote --- can yall stop with the fukin avatars dog I thought you were grimlock and this post confused the hell outta me |
| Darryl McKoy:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 10, 2018, 12:20:57 AM ---can yall stop with the fukin avatars dog I thought you were grimlock and this post confused the hell outta me --- End quote --- something something texas something something business college something something autism |
| SeventhSandwich:
That seems pretty cut-and-dry to me. Assuming they aren't looking at documents which are indeed protected under attorney-client privilege, then I see no problem with it. Also 'taint team' is funny. |
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