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POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
PhantOS:
Al-Baqara, 24: "guard against the fire, the fuel of which will be human beings, and stones, prepared for the nonbelievers"
Undeniable proof that islam is a religion of peace
Poliwhirl:
--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 01:09:46 PM ---You still despite two pages of rambling have ignored my point about racism. Islam isn't a race it's a set of ideas that are meant to be interrogated. And that's completely false Independent Pew Research polls show the mainstream support for the Governments actions in conservative Islamic countries. Nearly every school of Islam teaches that homoloveuality should be punishable by death and a women's worth is less than half of a man. And if they have changed like you said why do over 52% of British "integrated" Muslims support punishment for Homoloveuality?
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well you're right i suppose. racism wasn't the correct word to use in that sentence, but lets be real for a second i dont think using the word "islamaphobic" would have gone well either.
i looked into the 52% statistic, and found this:
"I’m hardly surprised that 52 per cent don’t think homoloveuality should be legal. They simply haven't had the time and space to evolve their thinking.
It's fuelled by secrecy.
Muslims don’t talk about difficult things related to relationships and love. On a religious level, it’s seen as taboo and on a more practical level, some British Muslims don’t share the native language of their parents, meaning those awkward conversations are lost in translation."
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-a-gay-british-muslim-this-is-what-i-think-of-the-survey-finding-over-half-of-british-muslims-want-a6978881.html
i think muslims can hold a lot of bigoted views, and so can christians, and that they will eventually change as the general culture of society grows more tolerant of homoloveuality. but the thing here is that while bigoted, they are not violent on a terroristic level, and so they are typically not so extreme as to be unable to change. i'm not going to overstep my own knowledge and state that the reason why many muslims are still stuck in a strict mindset is also because of the way islam is enforced in middle-eastern countries, because i don't know that. however, i think that given enough time, especially if crises in the middle east resolve, these mindsets can begin to change, but it WILL take time. (important to add: it will also take tolerance and understanding from others.)
Conan:
--- Quote from: Bisjac on July 27, 2016, 01:03:41 PM ---why are all the hillary supporters on the internet so quiet.
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probably cause they dont want to get shouted down and get into needless arguments
also probably cause internet political arguments are pretty pointless since the vast majority wont change their voting stance despite whatever arguments one may make
otto-san:
also consider if people are arguing against islam or just islamism. because i would probably consider myself to be against the latter
--- Quote from: PhantOS on July 27, 2016, 01:18:07 PM ---Al-Baqara, 24: "guard against the fire, the fuel of which will be human beings, and stones, prepared for the nonbelievers"
Undeniable proof that islam is a religion of peace
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a source for those wondering:
http://quran.com/2
and in context it seems to basically be saying that people who don't believe in their god will go to hell. which isn't too unfamiliar
Bisjac:
--- Quote from: Conan on July 27, 2016, 01:21:35 PM ---probably cause they dont want to get shouted down and get into needless arguments
also probably cause internet political arguments are pretty pointless since the vast majority wont change their voting stance despite whatever arguments one may make
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so sanders and Annoying Orange supporters inherently like to discuss politics, while hillary people are just really private?
that still dosnt answer my question actually.