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POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
Psych36:
--- Quote from: otto-san on July 27, 2016, 01:30:26 PM ---fair enough, though the heart of the argument was really more so that those terror attacks are politically motivated, not religiously inspired
if your entire life is stuff and you're scared and you have no power to do anything about it, unconventional means are the natural progression. that's why protests, riots, and rebellions happen. they aren't going to want to change because these methods are all they can think to do. obviously that doesn't mean it's right, but people are a product of their environment above all else
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Okay, but fear and stoning gays and rape victims to death while preventing the empowerment of women isn't an excuse and its obviously wrong. They aren't protesting for democracy or secularism they're quite content with their leadership. In most gulf countries the government provides a generous welfare to its native citizens, so these people don't have to work and contribute anything to society.
Psych36:
--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on July 27, 2016, 01:33:02 PM ---they dont want to. nobody truly wants to. but change isn't sparked by people suddenly deciding that they WANT to change their views. it takes time and other people explaining directly or indirectly why that kind of bigotry generally isn't accepted for people to realize that maybe they shouldn't think like that. i mean that hasn't TRULY happened for the general populous anywhere, so it might take quite some time, but i'm almost positive that it will begin to change. or maybe that's just optimism.it is my personal belief that the people who support her are either doing it to prevent a Annoying Orange presidency, dont care enough to support her/ pay attention beyond shes a woman and shes a clinton, or they are getting payed to support her and they just aren't getting payed enough to CONSISTENTLY support her.
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And basically what I'm saying is until it changes and until we can find a proper way to vet those that come in we shouldn't have open border policies like the EU does. It would be reckless and impatient.
Poliwhirl:
--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 01:36:22 PM ---
And basically what I'm saying is until it changes and until we can find a proper way to vet those that come in we shouldn't have open border policies like the EU does. It would be reckless and impatient.
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okay but family values isn't the reason people are proposing closing the borders to muslims, it's terrorism. usually, if you take the muslims out of the malevolent environments of the middle-east, they will not grow up brainwashed by radical views, and if they're already an adult, it wont take too long for them to figure out that those radical beliefs were only instilled in them to keep them oppressed by fear. i don't think we should just let anyone walk in, obviously. i think if immigrants are inspected for possible terrorist ties they'll understand, considering where they came from. (everybody gets monitored by the nsa anyways, nothing new there.) but i don't think we should just bar every single immigrant out of the country like donald Annoying Orange suggests. that would only keep them in that toxic environment for longer, letting the problem fester, and let radical beliefs seep in.
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