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| Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on July 27, 2016, 10:06:26 PM ---denying people into the US because of their religion violates the first amendment do background checks instead --- End quote --- this but I think an important stipulation has to be "no papers, no entry." If you cant provide sufficient information for a background check to be done, you shouldn't be allowed in. |
| Psych36:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on July 27, 2016, 10:06:26 PM ---denying people into the US because of their religion violates the first amendment do background checks instead --- End quote --- No, it doesn't violate the first amendment. The constitution only applies to citizens of the United States so we can't discriminate those that are already naturalized citizens. If they are foreign citizens we have the right to block entry since they aren't naturalized citizens and aren't entitled to the rights of a citizen. |
| Ipquarx:
--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 10:11:23 PM --- No, it doesn't violate the first amendment. The constitution only applies to citizens of the United States so we can't discriminate those that are already naturalized citizens. If they are foreign citizens we have the right to block entry since they aren't naturalized citizens and aren't entitled to the rights of a citizen. --- End quote --- here is the full text of the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." to create a law that would prevent muslims from entering would be creating a law respecting an establishment of religion it's that simple |
| Bisjac:
we can just ban entry from anyone from a in-conflict country then. :D there are a billion loopholes to keep them out. |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 10:11:23 PM --- No, it doesn't violate the first amendment. The constitution only applies to citizens of the United States so we can't discriminate those that are already naturalized citizens. If they are foreign citizens we have the right to block entry since they aren't naturalized citizens and aren't entitled to the rights of a citizen. --- End quote --- all non-citizens have constitutional rights within US territory. https://ricochet.com/archives/constitutional-rights-for-non-citizens/ and any clever workarounds wouldn't work if challenged in the supreme court if ultimately the goal was to excessively burden the ability of certain religious groups to enter the nation, or if they just happened to do it "by accident" |
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