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Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 10:56:31 PM ---No, they really can't. Most have left home without any identification or ditched their identification unless you're proposing mass surveillance to avoid a terror attack it's not worth the risk.

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No, I mean we already have more than enough means to put in place screening processes. If they don't pass a fair, religion-independent screening, don't let them in. If they pass, let them in. Simple as that.
Psych36:

--- Quote from: Ipquarx on July 27, 2016, 11:03:36 PM ---No, I mean we already have more than enough means to put in place screening processes. If they don't pass a fair, religion-independent screening, don't let them in. If they pass, let them in. Simple as that.

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What we have now are Iris scans which are then checked through a database which is hardly a solution if we're going to increase the refugee levels by 550% like Hillary proposes we do. Most terrorists that come from warzones aren't on any known databases. Look how well refugee screening has worked out so far in the EU and if you really wanted an intensive refugee test like you're proposing it would only allow for a few thousand refugees for it to be optimal.


And here we're just talking about the screening not the burden it will put on the U.S Taxpayer to house and resettle all these refugees and integrate them into society which will cost hundreds of millions if not billions. The fact is it's twelve times cheaper (UN ESTIMATE) for a Middle Eastern country to accept refugees. Why should we take the burden when countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and other muslim countries deny to take any of the burden despite fueling the very conflict.
Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: Psych36 on July 27, 2016, 11:10:16 PM ----snip-
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Dude, I said nothing about our current screening process or how it is or is not bad. I said we have the resources to put in place a good screening system like one Canada did.

And the "cost to taxpayers" is not known currently but it can easily be less than 1.2 billion over the course of 6 years which is absolutely nothing, assuming they do a little creative thinking on getting the cost down

And like I said, again, they cannot make any law targeted at muslims. They can target it at an entire country, or a nationality, but not a religion.
Akio-:

--- Quote from: Ipquarx on July 27, 2016, 11:17:54 PM ---And like I said, again, they cannot make any law targeted at muslims. They can target it at an entire country, or a nationality, but not a religion.

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can they legally target it at refugees / individuals related to refugees
Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: Akio- on July 27, 2016, 11:23:24 PM ---can they legally target it at refugees / individuals related to refugees

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Yes
They can make anyone seeking asylum/refugee status go through a stricter, but religion-independent screening process
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