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IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: ZombieDude on July 28, 2016, 12:19:56 AM ---is refusing to bring in hundreds of thousands of people who have proven themselves to be barbarians who follow a religion incompatible with your society 'blanket oppression'?
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holy loaded question batman
Drydess:
--- Quote from: ZombieDude on July 28, 2016, 12:19:56 AM ---is refusing to bring in hundreds of thousands of people who have proven themselves to be barbarians who follow a religion incompatible with your society 'blanket oppression'?
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refusing to accept the fact that they have basic human rights is, yeah
ZombieDude:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on July 28, 2016, 12:21:27 AM ---holy loaded question batman
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it's not really a question meant to be answered
just putting things in to perspective
--- Quote from: Drydess on July 28, 2016, 12:21:59 AM --- refusing to accept the fact that they have basic human rights is, yeah
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how does not letting someone in to your country deny them human rights
living in any country is not a right, its a privilege
Psych36:
--- Quote from: $trinick on July 28, 2016, 12:12:50 AM ---To be fair, constitutional rights only apply to citizens and people who are on US territory. So.. technically speaking, rejecting visas or green cards for immigrants wouldn't violate anyone's constitutional rights, because if you don't yet have a visa or green card then you aren't on US soil. That being said, I don't understand how anyone could really fit "blanket oppression of a group of people" inside their moral tapestry.
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and this is pretty much what i meant earlier none of these people are actually on U.S soil when they're seeking refuge.
$trinick:
--- Quote from: ZombieDude on July 28, 2016, 12:19:56 AM ---is refusing to bring in hundreds of thousands of people who have proven themselves to be barbarians who follow a religion incompatible with your society 'blanket oppression'?
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Yes, that is pretty much the definition of blanket oppression. Perhaps you need me to break down the phrase: oppression is the unjust control of people, and blanket means to apply it to a large population of people. People who follow Islam constitute a large population, and barring them from entering the country for exercising something that we as a society hold as a basic and inherent human right (religion) is oppression. That being said, I don't think anybody is really saying that we should let hundreds of thousands of people from a specific background into our country in a short period of time. I certainly don't think that. I just think that if you're going to bar people from entering the country, you should pick criteria that we don't hold as self-evident rights. Like being a loving terrorist.