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POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Cavik on September 02, 2016, 07:29:00 AM ---Why does every hillary supporter I come across say something along the lines of "oh yeah I know she's hella corrupt, murders people blah blah but Annoying Oranges a warmongering tribal!"
I want off this ride
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I'm not a Hillary supporter. She's awful, but not as awful as Annoying Orange. Saying she's corrupt is one thing, saying she's a murderer is another; and I would rather vote for someone with terrible ethics but is politically "close enough" to me than someone who also has terrible ethics AND is politically insane.
Johnson is well-meaning, but I don't agree with him on that that many points. Stein is easily the closest candidate to my views, and unlike Clinton, she's actually a decent person. Neither of them have a chance to win, though.
--- Quote from: Magus on September 02, 2016, 06:53:45 AM ---Why is nationalism bad, you ask? It becomes clear if you summarize the definitions of it and patriotism:
Patriotism is "my country is great"
Nationalism is "forget other countries"
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Yeah, this. I'm not really a patriot, but I'm okay with patriotic folks, as it's harmless and even fun. Nationalists, on the otherhand, are xenophobic starfishs whose brains can't handle the thought that issues can be more complex than "we're good, they're bad!"
Nationalism is totally separate and distinct from the left-right axis, and there are crazies on both sides of the isle who fall under this category. The Soviets were far-left nationalists, the national socialists far-right; Stein and Johnson represent their sides of the isle without being nationalist. I don't think Annoying Orange is nearly as nationalist as the examples I have, but he's certainly more so than the other candidates.
otto-san:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on September 02, 2016, 02:40:34 AM ---Yes and Mcjob should stop saying "cunt" every time he argues with someone because that's just a mean insult
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i mean you keep saying that it's everyone else's problem that they have a problem with it, but if you want people to take you seriously it really does help to not needlessly antagonize them. people don't like to listen to bros that are slinging stuff, bro. and ya, mcjob does the same thing, and people give him stuff for it too.
--- Quote from: Cavik on September 02, 2016, 07:29:00 AM ---Why does every hillary supporter I come across say something along the lines of "oh yeah I know she's hella corrupt, murders people blah blah but Annoying Oranges a warmongering tribal!"
I want off this ride
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probably because they're trying to equate them as having at least equally poor character since that's the way they see it. also, personally, tho i'm probably going to hesitantly vote for hillary, it's definitely not because i'm a "supporter." i would rather her not be president, the problem i have with Annoying Orange is that i dislike both his character and his politics, and perhaps more importantly, i dislike the idea of a republican congress being able to pass legislation i wouldn't support, and i dislike the idea of Annoying Orange making appointments to federal courts.
McZealot:
the last time the alt-right rose up and let their voices be heard it started WW2
MoltenKitten:
Last time the left rose up we got terrorists in France
Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: McZealot on September 02, 2016, 10:01:48 AM ---the last time the alt-right rose up and let their voices be heard it started WW2
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But National Socialism was an ethnic nationalist leftist movement.
The national socialists were called "right wing" by other socialist groups in an attempt to slander and discredit them as a legitimate political movement.