Why is everyone so anti-NSA or whatever stuff

[Drydess]

guys what if espio has been compromised and that's actually the NSA posting this

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[ShadowsfeaR]

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

Gonna quote this for truth, esp since he seems to be ignoring it.

[Tayasaurus]

That argument is overused espio. And just about everyone hates it.

[Klarck]

one of my friends told me i should post this here:
https://www.wired.com/2013/09/nsa-stalking/

[Ravencroft·]

Because the NSA recently enacted a bill that requires all technology, including cellphones, computers, televisions, etc. to be fitted with their special tracking chip that gathers GPS information and records audio 24/7 before being supplied to retailers.

[Clownfish]

espio send me a picture of your richard in pm
you have nothing to hide right

[Refticus]

espio post a screenshot of your ip because you have nothing to hide right?

[IkeTheGeneric]

If you have nothing suspicious to hide there is nothing to worry about, right?

I don't loving know, the people monitoring us are the ones who decides what's suspicious and what isn't. The NSA red flag words are stupid stuff like "Pressure Cooker", "Pig", "Sweeping", "Capricorn" and even loving "Bubba the Love Sponge".

How would you feel to be put on the no fly list because you look at wrestling a lot, while looking for cooking supplies, searching for the nearest slaughterhouse to get some pork loins while getting daily subscriptions for your horoscope? Surely that's some loving suspicious stuff right there.

Even worse, the government has a system in check that allows them to detain anyone without trial on the grounds of terrorism. Isn't that convenient, to be able to throw anyone they want into jail without trial because "oh no he's a terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Red Spy]

and even loving "Bubba the Love Sponge"

[Toxicology]

ike why are you googling bubba the love sponge

[XR-7]

How would you feel to be put on the no fly list because you look at wrestling a lot, while looking for cooking supplies, searching for the nearest slaughterhouse to get some pork loins while getting daily subscriptions for your horoscope? Surely that's some loving suspicious stuff right there.

That actually is pretty suspicious

[carolcat]

because the NSA is wildly overstepping their bounds.

for records that have a 2 to 5 year limit that they should retain them, they keep them far beyond that limit. when this was brought up in a case, it was brushed off as if it were nothing. whenever they're given a minimization requests on their data collection, they refuse to comply and simply skirt the issue.

the FBI is allowed to query the database whenever they want (no warrant required) with little to no restrictions. the amount of searches (esp warrantless) on the NSA database has been increasing at an alarming rate over the past few years. the searches don't even have to be about terrorism: they can be for local law enforcement cases, too.

furthermore, companies like microsoft are suing because the FBI/NSA is sending more and more data requests with gag orders, meaning that they aren't allowed to notify their customers that they're being monitored.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-sues-us-government-secrecy,31606.html

they monitor everything and, as you probably know, have gotten into stuff for spying on people who aren't even american citizens (meaning overseas). they have red flags for pretty much anything that you could search.

you may think that you have nothing to hide, but the NSA/FBI doesn't see it that way

[espio100]

are you sure that's your whole history?
what about things you opened in incognito mode and aren't there? would you post those here?
what about files? other things like real life communication with your family/friends?
what about being able to know every password you use on any web service?

Same still a plies
And the nsa won't look at your stuff if they don't have a reason too.

[carolcat]

Same still a plies
And the nsa won't look at your stuff if they don't have a reason too.

they can use any reason they want to look at your stuff. and if there's a security breach, then outsiders can get a hold of all of your information. passwords, nudes, credit card info, anything

[Rykuta]

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Basically, you have an undeniable right to privacy. If you choose not to exercise that right, that's fine; but that doesn't mean the government can just pretend like that's true for everyone.