i actually messaged seth about opening the night discussion topic and he hasn't said anything yet
he's probably worried to deal with the burden from the drama and drama thread
its like if something you liked to do was insulted to your face you just need time away
its a bit of an emotional struggle
if gr8 does not open his night discussion topic we shall create our own with rules against furfriendry
too many rules and it'll quickly fall towards uncoolness