Author Topic: reddit CEO caught editing users' posts; reddit on fire (update, page 4)  (Read 6922 times)

You're saying that the Stratton v. Prodigy case is irrelevant to Reddit when the only thing making the connection to Reddit being liable for all content on the site is a stuffty picture from 8chan citing that case? So if not Stratton v. Prodigy what case law says this?
I don't know what the law itself is, but it's common sense that wherever the content originates form, the originator is liable for said content, and in this case it's Reddit, and because we don't know the extent of the amount of posts they've edited, they're (for the time being) liable for every post on the website, of course they haven't edited every post on the website, but given the amount is unknown, then all posts are technically Reddit's until it's proven not to be Reddit's.

So since several comments were changed all content is from the provider?  This raises doubt over the use of reddit comments as evidence which should have already been questionable evidence without more circumstantial evidence to connect them.
Yes, until proven that all content has not originated from the provider, that's how this goes.

and why would the Reddit comments already have been questionable evidence, we didn't know about this occurring until recently, so that's irrelevant.

and don't know what you mean by "circumstantial evidence" when u/spez admitted to editing the posts himself in the thread where it happened.

Just because a court case predates something doesn't mean it doesn't set a precedent for the law. Where is the idea that they are automatically liable for any and every single post coming from exactly? 
Because of the implications of them editing users posts in secret, given that they've done it in secret, we don't know how many posts they've edited, and therefore you must treat every single post as Reddit's until it's proven not to be.

Prodigy hosted their own content and had software in place that would automatically filter out obscene language. That seems more than similar enough to be used as an argument in court.  It could always swing the other way, I don't see it going very far though.
That's a completely different subject now, and an easily solvable one at that, you'd examine the code behind the software, and see what words trigger the software to filter out said trigger words, easy as that, that's not editing users comments completely, that's a filter for obscene language.

Are you talking about different statutes or case law than us cause you're making an awful lot of statements as if they're fact without referencing anything..
I'm not referring to any case law specifically, but if this was something brought to the court they'd be saying the exact same thing I'm saying now, which is that given Reddit edit's users posts completely in secret without the users knowledge, and have done this multiple times to an unknown degree, we must treat every post on Reddit as their own considering there is no defined set amount of posts they have edited.

now no stuff they haven't edited every single post on the website, but that's how you have to treat this ordeal, because no one besides Reddit knows how many posts they've edited, so until Reddit comes out with a set number (if said number is even the true number), we must treat every post on Reddit in this way.

rambo has recently put a lot of money into tinfoil stocks dont try and argue with him about conspiracy theories lmao

rambo has recently put a lot of money into tinfoil stocks dont try and argue with him about conspiracy theories lmao
exactly, call me crazy and be dismissive because instead of contributing to the conversation and trying to talk to me about it with reason, thought, and logic, just call him a dismissive slur that represents all their thoughts as insane/crazy/tinfoil hat wearer, so you don't have to argue with him anyways, he's crazy!

but no, watch out for rambo, despite the hordes and hordes of reasoning and evidence he's provided for what his opinions/beliefs are he's a tinfoil hat wearing psycho, he's crazy!

forget off dude, you clearly don't have anything valuable to say here so what are you doing here other than to be a cunt.

this stuff
dude, what
hordes and hordes of reasoning and evidence
at least the "reasoning" bit is arguable, but where are the hordes of evidence lol

at least the "reasoning" bit is arguable, but where are the hordes of evidence lol
he's referring to my tinfoil hat posts in the Pizzagate thread

dude, what
whaddya mean what, if you don't understand what I said there and just labeled it as "this stuff" then you shouldn't even be conversing about this.

You've made no argument besides "common sense" while case law seems to disagree with most of your "common sense"


and why would the Reddit comments already have been questionable evidence, we didn't know about this occurring until recently, so that's irrelevant.

and don't know what you mean by "circumstantial evidence" when u/spez admitted to editing the posts himself in the thread where it happened.

You misunderstood what I said almost completely.

Reddit should have never been an infallible source of information to begin with because it's an anonymous internet forum.  I don't know if I'm taking crazy pills but I honestly don't get where all these people are coming from acting like Reddit's comment section was supposed to be some sort of infallible source of information.


he's referring to my tinfoil hat posts in the Pizzagate thread
Wait you believe in Pizzagate? lol
« Last Edit: November 25, 2016, 02:43:34 PM by devildogelite »

You've made no argument besides "common sense" while case law seems to disagree with most of your "common sense"
by that standard you're doing the exact same stuff dude

Reddit should have never been an infallible source of information to begin with because it's an anonymous internet forum.  I don't know if I'm taking crazy pills but I honestly don't get where all these people are coming from acting like Reddit's comment section was supposed to be some sort of infallible source of information.
of course, Reddit's not perfect, but there's a difference between "not being a good internet forum" and straight up editing users posts to twist the narrative and then having the CEO apologize for doing so admitting to said actions

Wait you believe in Pizzagate? lol
yeah I know right, look at this chump, he has opinions! el oh el.

by that standard you're doing the exact same stuff dude

I'm talking about actual case law though...

of course, Reddit's not perfect, but there's a difference between "not being a good internet forum" and straight up editing users posts to twist the narrative and then having the CEO apologize for doing so admitting to said actions

I still don't think you understand what I'm saying.  No forum should be thought of as being some sort of record that can never be changed.  Also what narrative was twisted exactly? From what I can tell he changed his username to some TD mods usernames in comments that were spouting abuse at him.  This just strengthens my belief that quoting Reddit comments for an article is a dumb thing to do.

yeah I know right, look at this chump, he has opinions! el oh el.

Yeah cause pizzagate is loving handicapped so lol indeed.

I'm talking about actual case law though...
lol ok a case law that predates Reddit and has no relation to the situation occurring within Reddit because what's happening in Reddit isn't even mentioned in the case law as a situation/scenario?

lol ok

I still don't think you understand what I'm saying.  No forum should be thought of as being some sort of record that can never be changed. 
that's a bit iffy but alright, so you're chill with changing the narrative of history it seems.

Also what narrative was twisted exactly? From what I can tell he changed his username to some TD mods usernames in comments that were spouting abuse at him.
Of who the attacks were directed towards, changing and censoring the entire narrative of what was happening, and doing so to save his ass from backlash received because of bad moderation of the website...

This just strengthens my belief that quoting Reddit comments for an article is a dumb thing to do.
Yeah, forget people and what they think, let's go ask someone on the street instead, because y'know, it's not like those are the exact same people going on reddit or anything.

Yeah cause pizzagate is loving handicapped so lol indeed.
hey watch it you're offending my opinion there bucko

you don't half make a lot of snarky comments

oh yeah dude go to voatco man please we insist
Eh, I post on both.
It's alright.

you'd think winning the election would keep the drooling dumbasses at r/the_donald quiet but they're still going as strong as ever

you'd think winning the election would keep the drooling dumbasses at r/the_donald quiet but they're still going as strong as ever
this is why you lost the election

you'd think winning the election would keep the drooling dumbasses at r/the_donald quiet but they're still going as strong as ever
They're not dumb, they just don't take Reddit as seriously as ou do lol

They're not dumb, they just don't take Reddit as seriously as ou do lol
well some of em got to be dumb

after all it is reddit