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question - should the furry thread be deleted

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kongo: --- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on December 29, 2016, 01:26:32 PM ---Weird research and degenerate garbage is an internet thing in general, you find it in the underbelly of pretty much any fandom. It just seems more prominent with furries because the furry fandom has a weird loveual undertone for some reason. --- End quote --- well of course, i'm sure there's degeneracy in my favorite media's communities too but the problem is like you said, it's way more prominent with furries than with most other communities same kind of thing with deviantart, the website itself isn't bad and there is definitely good art on it, but the trash is way more prominent than the gold so it's mostly associated with the trash

otto-san: i duno man i've known a lot of furries and none of them are bad for any reason related to being a furry

kongo: --- Quote from: otto-san on December 29, 2016, 02:26:37 PM ---i duno man i've known a lot of furries and none of them are bad for any reason related to being a furry --- End quote --- never said every furry is bad because they're a furry, and i never said the idea of BEING a furry is bad i said it's strange and weird to say you're a dog-man (at least to an average person) but it's not like you're a bad person for doing so three of my best friends became furries, and somehow i seem to talk to a lot of people the end up being furries, so it's not like i personally care whether they're a furry or not, i only care about how the person acts ofc i don't like people that feel the need to make it known "I'M A FURRY DEAL WITH !!!" when i just want to play a video game or something but i don't like anyone who acts like they're special and deserve attention for being part of a community as it is

Headcrab Zombie: --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---what "reputable sources" that an average person follows have explained what a furry is the last news station i've seen even acknowledge the existence of furries was fox and that was only because two furries killed two other furries --- End quote --- There's been all sorts of news stories throughout the past few years. The key phrase here is "that I've seen" Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. Also I should mention that when I say "reputable source" what I mean is they're informative sources,  not an entertainment show like CSI --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---the reason most people don't like furries is because they are pretending to be animal people and that is - obviously - strange --- End quote --- Yes, it is strange. Most furries will freely admit that. But again, strange isn't a reason to throw the amount of hate that some people do. There's all sorts of people that like all sorts of strange things. But I never feel the need to go out of my way to bother them for it --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---trying to say the reason people hate furries is because they just want to hate something / are a troll is beyond dumb --- End quote --- I said most people, not all. All you need to do is look at this thread. You're the only person to actually attempt to communicate. Everyone else just says "lmao stop" "you're embarrassing" I respond to an outdated Badspot quote with nothing more than more recent Badspot quotes, and all I get is "yiff in hell" --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---it's almost as if near a convention specifically for furries there's going to be positive interaction between furries and regular people, just like at any convention or big event. why would people who hate furries be anywhere near a convention where there's going to be tons of furries? unless they're planning to drop a chlorine bomb i don't see any reason why they'd stop there --- End quote --- You know conventions aren't just in the middle of nowhere, right? They're in the middle of major cities, with all sorts of businesses and businesspeople all over the place. And convention attendees don't just stay in the hotel the whole time, they wander the city. The hotel also isn't there exclusively for the convention, either. There's always people there for business trips and such, and they're very easy to identify: formal clothing and a facial expression of confused amusement --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---regular people aren't going to cause problems because regular people don't go in public to shout at other people and generally be an starfish obviously i didn't walk up to them and be a rooster, instead i went down a different walkway nearby because y'know, instead of starting conflict i did something easier. like most regular people would decide to do. --- End quote --- See, this is my point exactly. Nobody expects you to like everything, or even to not find it weird. But constantly starting conflicts over it doesn't help anyone --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---do you wonder why a pet store and zoo might love having people dressed as animals come to their stores and give them money, and then stick around to promote said pet store and zoo so other people give them money? it's almost like it's helping the pet store and zoo - places about animals - to have people dressed as animals come down and promote them. crazy, right? --- End quote --- It's not just "here's your spot, go do your thing and give us money" The employees are going out of their way to go to us, interact/dance/generally have fun with us --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---has it ever crossed your mind that, just possibly, these people DON'T know anything about furries, just the name, and the fact they dress up as animal people? ... i doubt most of the people that say "hell yeah furries" don't realize how much research and degeneracy comes out of the community --- End quote --- I'm sure there's some, but there's plenty of people who DO fully know what furries are and still don't care --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---but it's undeniable that a whole lot of research and weird garbage comes from the general furry community. the stereotype of furries being research-buying weirdos didn't form out of thin air fun fact if you look up tony the tiger you get research. softcore and hardcore research. for a cereal box mascot. i could've just said that since it proves my point that furries are weird instead of making this gigantic post --- End quote --- As Ike said, this isn't specific to furries, it's a fandom thing in general. Look at anime. You're probably going to encounter the same issue if you image search an anime character. There's all sorts of weirdness, like anime girl body pillows. I have many friends into anime, and their more outspoken about their hentai interests than than any of my furry friends are. And yet nobody goes around complaining about anime fans. You get the occasional "lol weebs" here and there, but not to the extent of furry. --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---see below for the convention hotel people --- End quote --- I'm not sure what I'm looking for --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 01:21:57 PM ---i had to go on furaffinity to find a reference for aforementioned christmas present and there was a "species" tag. now i don't know about you but i think if the biggest furry website has an option to say "i'm a dog-man" and then most people use the option to call themselves a dog-man, that a lot of furries actually think they're a dog-man. --- End quote --- Why would a website dedicated to pictures of animals not have an option to filter by species? If you're uploading a picture of a dog, why would you not tag it as "this is a picture of a dog!" And how are your misunderstanding the point of a tag system this badly? It's not about saying "this is what I am" It's about maximizing your audience, about helping people looking for pictures off dogs to find your picture by saying "hey, here's a picture of a dog" --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 02:25:22 PM ---well of course, i'm sure there's degeneracy in my favorite media's communities too but the problem is like you said, it's way more prominent with furries than with most other communities --- End quote --- Can you provide some sort of numbers to back this up? Or is this just confirmation bias? Because in my experience, it's been the other way around, e.g. my hentai friends more open than my furry friends Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying it is or isn't. I'm legitimately interested in seeing a way to quantify this.   --- Quote from: kongo on December 29, 2016, 02:32:58 PM ---i said it's strange and weird to say you're a dog-man (at least to an average person) but it's not like you're a bad person for doing so ofc i don't like people that feel the need to make it known "I'M A FURRY DEAL WITH !!!" when i just want to play a video game or something but i don't like anyone who acts like they're special and deserve attention for being part of a community as it is --- End quote --- Nobody is disagreeing with you on this. We're just saying that the former doesn't warrant hatred

Cheze: I don't give a forget about the furry thread. im not a furry, but the thread doesn't really bother me.

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