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question - why are are all furries mentally unstable or autistic
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Steve5451²:
I guess the assumption is that by having the furry special interest you're automatically a member of the furry fandom.
Zloff:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 10, 2017, 12:53:22 PM ---Some ten or so years ago, playing video games was seen as an undesirable trait and many believed that having a hobby playing games was a symptom of social handicapation.

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that's because of the opportunity costs to playing video games - as listed by the people who characterized the hobby as such back then - were likely often related to interaction with people or things in real life ("you know you could go play that sport outside with friends instead", "why don't you do *generic hobby* rather than play these games", etc) it wasn't recognized as a real hobby

liking to play video games is not that comparable to having a loveual attraction to animals even in this context


--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 10, 2017, 12:53:22 PM ---It's just a thing that they like and unfortunately in some circumstances it's a thing they get off to. A disproportionate amount of furries could be autistic just because the furry fandom isn't exactly an inclusive club. To owe it to some complex social hierarchy that somehow churns "Turbocreeps" into specific groups that Rally personally has a distaste for seems completely insane.

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i wouldn't say it's due to a social hierarchy so much as a plausible and natural route of action-- the basic idea is that, if desired, through trial and error people will hop from group to more similarly-traited group until they find one they are most comfortable being themselves in. in rally's spiel i took it that this was the basic idea and the setting was the internet and the defining trait in question was a special interest for animals/anthromorphs. i don't believe the forced-inclusion bit, as to me it implied that everyone within the group believes that their are no other options and therefore stick within the group despite discomfort/whatever
McJob:
People who are incapable of understanding standard, real-world social cues and graces ("robots") lend themselves towards curious perversions and the groups that delight in those same perversions. There's always a primitive need for socialising, and when you aren't able to cooperate with real people, you'll find a group that you are comfortable with, that hopefully shares a lot of similar traits and interests as you.

When a community is built around the obsessive desire to create and roleplay characters that go beyond the normal, particularly those based around the wildlife that these robots seem to enjoy moreso that humanity itself, it becomes attractive those kinds of people. Moreover, as it starts attracting some "autistic" people, others see this a comforting fact that they'll be including too, without fear of reprisal.

It's basically a vicious cycle, where the stronger numbers that this community creates, the more degenerates who see it as a valid "escape route" for the problems in their own life. All I'm saying is that people get on my goat for liking to drink, but at least my drinking never involved masturbating to the image a 6-foot dog.

EDIT: I'm not saying that normal people can't appreciate the art and want to participate in that way, but I simply believe it's more than coincidence that a lot of the people we see who brand themselves as "furries" have social issues and are generally some of the less-well-received users of these forums.

EDIT2: Apparently some people needed further clarification; I don't just mean generally awkward or shy people. I'm talking about the absolute bottom of the barrel; those far, far removed from the real world and are completely incapable of sympathising/empathising with anything a normal person feels.
IkeTheGeneric:

--- Quote from: Zloff on January 10, 2017, 01:32:27 PM ---that's because of the opportunity costs to playing video games - as listed by the people who characterized the hobby as such back then - were likely often related to interaction with people or things in real life ("you know you could go play that sport outside with friends instead", "why don't you do *generic hobby* rather than play these games", etc) it wasn't recognized as a real hobby

liking to play video games is not that comparable to having a loveual attraction to animals even in this context

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I meant in more of a way that ten or so years ago, people would dismiss the legitimacy of entire communities of avid gamers based on the hobby being supposedly an undesirable trait or the hobby itself being a symptom of mental illness, or in that their assumed inability to play actual sports meant that they instead flocked to playing video games instead.

A lot of what Rally's post was implying is that a majority of furries are furries not being they happen to enjoy being a part of the furry fandom, but rather because they couldn't fit in anywhere else due to their own shortcomings and settled identifying along with the other degenerates in this example. While this may be true for a disproportionate amount of furries, I can say with confidence that a hard majority of furries identify as furries nowadays just because they like being a part of the furry fandom, not because they didn't have a choice in it.
Rigel:
They are usually very friendly and accepting, at least the ones I know. That in itself might be attractive to someone looking for a group to fit in with.
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