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NEWS - Republicans are attempting to pass a bill an extreme anti-protest bill
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: DrenDran on January 23, 2017, 01:37:09 AM ---Part of the problem is that they allow the protests to get to the point where they're blocking traffic in the first place. There's plenty of videos of protests that have been allowed to stay around for quite some time. Microwave dispersal units may very well be the answer, but who's to say they won't be ruled inhumane based on current standards?
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If this bill were to actually pass (which it probably won't), then I don't see why a similar law with more lenient methods of dispersal wouldn't pass either. It would have to take some serious mental gymnastics to be okay with shooting people but not firing non-lethal microwaves at them.
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on January 23, 2017, 01:32:47 AM ---I like how Seventh is dead set on enforcing the mind-set that this bill is 100% geared towards violently murdering protesters, even though it isn't and is never even said to in the original bill
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That's the whole purpose behind the bill considering police officers are already completely capable of dispersing protesters blocking traffic, even violently if need be.
The senator is just trying to stir stuff up because that's what stuffty senators do. As it looks like, the stuff has been stirred. Nothing is excepted to come of this bill.
Insert Name Here²:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on January 23, 2017, 01:34:57 AM ---Again, you don't seem to understand that allowing police 'any means necessary' to disperse protests effectively legalizes lethal force. Whether or not they use it is irrelevant because the wording of the bill makes it legal.
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Yes, but just because it's allowed doesn't mean every cop who runs into the situation will suddenly become cold killers as you keep trying to tell. Last I checked, shooting and such violence is only used during a worst case scenario when non-violent attempts don't work.
Please stop spreading misinformation that this will turn cops into cold killers please. You keep over-exaggerating this.
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on January 23, 2017, 01:40:21 AM ---Yes, but just because it's allowed doesn't mean every cop who runs into the situation will suddenly become cold killers as you keep trying to tell.
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That's literally not what I'm saying at all. Let me be as clear about this as I can - even if this bill were to pass, I'd wager >99% of cops would not be willing to use lethal force on a crowd of highway blockers.
But that's not the point. All it would take is one loose cannon, and then we have absolutely no legal recourse to punish the cop for improper use of force because this law permits it.
Insert Name Here²:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on January 23, 2017, 01:43:24 AM ---That's literally not what I'm saying at all. Let me be as clear about this as I can - even if this bill were to pass, I'd wager >99% of cops would not be willing to use lethal force on a crowd of highway blockers.
But that's not the point. All it would take is one loose cannon, and then we have absolutely no legal recourse to punish the cop for improper use of force because this law permits it.
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Oh okay now I see what you're getting at, thanks for clearing it up