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NEWS - Republicans are attempting to pass a bill an extreme anti-protest bill
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on January 23, 2017, 01:52:30 AM ---I'm libertarian, but this is a bit of authoritarianism I can get behind.
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I'm pretty sure authoritarianism directed only towards certain groups of people is like a working definition for fascism.
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on January 23, 2017, 01:55:39 AM ---I'm pretty sure authoritarianism directed only towards certain groups of people is like a working definition for fascism.
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you mean lawbreakers?
no that's called enforcing the loving law
holy stuff
DestroyerOfBlocks:
fascism is just a bunch of laws
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on January 23, 2017, 01:58:15 AM ---you mean lawbreakers?
no that's called enforcing the loving law
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There's also something called 'cruel and unusual punishment', which is explicitly forbidden in our constitution. It's the reason why we don't crucify people for murder, or execute people for traffic violations.
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: Ipquarx on January 23, 2017, 01:54:55 AM ---You realize lethal force is 100% unnecessary and is likely a lot faster to actually clear off an area but this bill completely allows for it, right? That police will literally be allowed to open fire on unarmed citizens? You're okay with that?
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unarmed does not mean safe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
and more
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on January 23, 2017, 01:59:36 AM ---There's also something called 'cruel and unusual punishment', which is explicitly forbidden in our constitution. It's the reason why we don't crucify people for murder, or execute people for traffic violations.
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is it cruel and unusual punishment to kill someone for blocking traffic, remembering that they also could be blocking emergency services and halting commerce, putting people's lives and livelihoods at stake, after everything else they've tried doesn't work?
the notion that cops are cruel, cold-blooded killers that shoot people for looking at them funny is something I don't think even you believe
any sane cop would try several other methods of dispersing the crowd, but it's really easy for these things to go violent
you're also forgetting that the term "protester" is just thrown onto anyone today, even onto violent people to cover up how dangerous they really are and to remove all accountability for their actions
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-charlotte-agitators-throw-rocks-off-highway-overpass-strike-motorists/
http://therightscoop.com/breaking-baton-rouge-flares-up-protesters-throw-bottles-at-police-several-arrests-made/
notice how the term "protester" is used there