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[Poll] Which political party of the US do you prefer
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 23, 2017, 04:39:27 PM ---i am against nationalism; that doesn't mean i am equating it to fascism or national socialistsm.
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You aren't getting it. He thinks what you think is nationalism is a good thing. Don't you think being coy and sarcastic in response in most scenarios piss off the person? Unless this is exactly what you set out to do, your type of response is universally counterproductive and that's exactly what I meant when I questioned your self-awareness.
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 23, 2017, 04:39:27 PM ---i am against nationalism; that doesn't mean i am equating it to fascism or national socialistsm.
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Really because you equate everything else to fascism
Jairo:
--- Quote from: Frequency on January 23, 2017, 04:41:59 PM ---Assuming you aren't asserting that other countries are terrible because they're not yours. I do have a problem with that.
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isn't that the difference between patriotism (what you're in favor of) and nationalism (what you're not in favor of)?
Nonnel:
--- Quote from: Frequency on January 23, 2017, 04:41:59 PM ---Why are you so opposed to it? Taking pride in where you live and who you're under, especially when there is a symbiotic relationship where you are contributing to it and it to you, doesn't seem problematic at all.
Assuming you aren't asserting that other countries are terrible because they're not yours. I do have a problem with that.
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Nationalism is essentially taking pride in your country because you were born there rather than because it's a country worth taking pride in. It's spoon-fed to you your whole life, especially in the US. You don't support our troops? You don't stand for the flag and take your hat off for the anthem? You're a communist bastard and you're un-American. That's nationalism and it's bullstuff.
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 23, 2017, 04:43:35 PM ---You aren't getting it. He thinks what you think is nationalism is a good thing. Don't you think being coy and sarcastic in response in most scenarios piss off the person? Unless this is exactly what you set out to do, your type of response is universally counterproductive and that's exactly what I meant when I questioned your self-awareness.
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you've clearly got your own problems with perception so I'll ignore you from here on out
Frequency:
--- Quote from: Jairo on January 23, 2017, 04:46:57 PM ---isn't that the difference between patriotism (what you're in favor of) and nationalism (what you're not in favor of)?
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I dunno. To me it would seem that they're basically synonymous unless you're referring to the extreme. If that's the case, I'm opposed to the extreme.
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 23, 2017, 04:53:09 PM ---Nationalism is essentially taking pride in your country because you were born there rather than because it's a country worth taking pride in. It's spoon-fed to you your whole life, especially in the US. You don't support our troops? You don't stand for the flag and take your hat off for the anthem? You're a communist bastard and you're un-American. That's nationalism and it's bullstuff.
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That doesn't sound exactly like what patriotism/nationalism is. I mean I don't know what to call it but I'm opposed to that too. One of the reasons I take pride in my country because it principally allows its citizens to exercise that freedom not to support every aspect of it.
Actually, considering what I said to Jairo that would seem like some extreme form of nationalism, but not to the same degree of stuffting on other countries.