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[NEWS] protestors put up "resist" banner on crane near white house
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 26, 2017, 01:25:30 AM ---It was also the Brazilian dictator state
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The first thing that comes up is for Portugal and even in the second article it asks which one you want between the two. I would say the one that lasted longer (Portugals) is a better representation.
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 01:22:15 AM ---You sure as forget aren't because Estado Novo was in Portugal.
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Point still stands lol. I am barely familiar with the regime at all. It's just that if you had to make me guess whether a random fascist state runs democratic elections, I'd have to say no.
DrenDran:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 01:14:59 AM ---Then what is Fascism if not Totalitarian?
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It is a rejection of the materialism present in both capitalism and communism. Both capitalism and communism as systems tend to have as their goal the material enrichment of people's lives whether or not these goals are realized in practice. Most of the west, capitalist or communist, idolizes "peace" and "human rights" as the greatest good towards which to strive. In reality this means that such people believe that humanity is at its best when we can all just get fat, do drugs, and watch TV all day without interruption. At its core a fascist acknowledges that there is some higher purpose. This could be racial identity, national status, technological progress, pleasing a god, and other things which someone would willingly endure struggle for. Humanity is defined by this desire for struggle and its ability to create a state which is instrumental in facilitating it. This state, which encapsulates all of culture, religion, language, art, economics, morality, and politics uses these things as tools to achieve those goals for its nation.
As an aside: A nation is defined here as a group of people with a common identity and goals. This is different from a "country" as it were. Nationalism is allegiance to a nation under this definition, whereas patriotism is allegiance to a specific government. As such you can be a patriot but not a nationalist, and a nationalist but not a patriot, or you can be both.
Nonnel:
but there isn't a higher purpose
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: DrenDran on January 26, 2017, 01:33:01 AM ---It is a rejection of the materialism present in both capitalism and communism. Both capitalism and communism as systems tend to have as their goal the material enrichment of people's lives whether or not these goals are realized in practice. Most of the west, capitalist or communist, idolizes "peace" and "human rights" as the greatest good towards which to strive. In reality this means that such people believe that humanity is at its best when we can all just get fat, do drugs, and watch TV all day without interruption. At its core a fascist acknowledges that there is some higher purpose. This could be racial identity, national status, technological progress, pleasing a god, and other things which someone would willingly endure struggle for. Humanity is defined by this desire for struggle and its ability to create a state which is instrumental in facilitating it. This state, which encapsulates all of culture, religion, language, art, economics, morality, and politics uses these things as tools to do so.
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Sounds like a supplement for the gaping hole left behind by religion
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 26, 2017, 01:34:03 AM ---but there isn't a higher purpose
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Go eat yourself into a McComa® ancap