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| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---It's apparently the job of a Christian to kill homoloveuals, though. --- End quote --- >Not in the new testament --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---That's pretty ironic then considering the most powerful countries in the world are majority-Christian, and the United States has oppressed minority political and religious groups due to their religious faith. Remember the Red Scare, when atheists were singled out as "communist infiltrators?" So much for the first amendment."Put homoloveuals to death" and "stone the unbelievers" aren't up to much interpretation either. --- End quote --- what is crusades what is the reconquista what are the forced conversions in north america what are the massacres during the protestant reformation what is the turmoil in england and france what is the thirty years war and the schmalkaldic war what is the ottoman empire (considering we're talking about history here, being dead doesn't exactly matter) [/quote] All still killed considerably less then Muslims and the Jihads --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---how come you didn't apply any of this logic to what you said 2 sentences ago also apparently eastern orthodoxy just doesn't exist? what --- End quote --- Eastern Orthodoxy was considerably smaller and weaker than Catholicism. --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---Yes, but that doesn't mean that Christianity was suddenly super-tolerant. A lack of central authority just means that each state will start their own crusades instead of all acting as one. As I mentioned, a lot of pretty gruesome massacres happened due to the Reformation. On both sides. Additionally, Islam hasn't have a central authority since the caliphates, and even then, it was disputed at best. So it did have a Reformation in a way. --- End quote --- There were far less wars int he name of religion and calling a crusade of your own is just laughable. --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---Otherwise known as Judaism, a religion not exactly known for excessive violence. And the existence of the New Testament doesn't make the Old Testament "invalid" - it's still part of the Bible. --- End quote --- Because until recently it would be Self Delete to attack people of a different religion when your a minority in their country. --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on January 26, 2017, 07:56:12 PM ---That's like saying the Bible needs changes at a fundamental level because it advocates killing homoloveuals and unbelievers. I'd agree with that statement, but it's just not realistic. You can by being reasonable in ignoring outdated parts of the Bible, just as you can with the Quran. And if so... congratulations! That's what the majority of Muslims actually do, just like how it's the majority of what Christians do. But we elect the fundies into government anyway. --- End quote --- You seem to forget that the old testament is a story of the jews and the founding of the religion. The new testament is what your actually suppose to follow Again Islam has no "new testament" Anyway my quote already linked to a previous argument where all the crap you spewed was already debunked |
| otto-san:
(wrote this before beachbum's reply) the Annoying Orange card here is the protestant reformation, which was by all means a political movement to separate from the oppressive catholic church, however if the argument for islam is "it's in the book, therefore people believe it," then the same standard has to apply to christianity, or any other religion. take note that judaism has all the awful stuff in the old testament without the protestant reformation (also, christians definitely still teach from supposedly obsolete and backwards old testament content depending on your denomination, speaking from experience as someone who grew up in a southern baptist household). does that mean the jewish are inherently violent? absolutely not, because at the end of the day they're just words on a page. religious individuals decide which parts of their text are most important to them, and if you've ever been to church on any sort of regular basis, you'll know that they only emphasize the parts they want to talk about. and this varies from denomination to denomination, church to church, pastor to pastor, and certainly, individual to individual. |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: otto-san on January 26, 2017, 08:13:53 PM ---take note that judaism has all the awful stuff in the old testament without the protestant reformation (also, christians definitely still teach from supposedly obsolete and backwards old testament content depending on your denomination, speaking from experience as someone who grew up in a southern baptist household). does that mean the jewish are inherently violent? absolutely not, because at the end of the day they're just words on a page. religious individuals decide which parts of their text are most important to them, and if you've ever been to church on any sort of regular basis, you'll know that they only emphasize the parts they want to talk about. --- End quote --- Like I said Judaism never really had that power since they didn't have a sovereign state until recent times |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 08:15:47 PM ---Like I said Judaism never really had that power since they didn't have a sovereign state until recent times --- End quote --- so is it a problem with government and politics or a problem with fundamentally evil individuals? i'm having a very hard time seeing the things going on in the middle east as anything other than a political phenomenon |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: otto-san on January 26, 2017, 08:16:58 PM ---so is it a problem with government and politics or a problem with fundamentally evil individuals? i'm having a very hard time seeing the things going on in the middle east as anything other than a political phenomenon --- End quote --- I mean the jews tried to rebel from the Romans but they got their stuff kicked in |
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