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| otto-san:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 08:17:37 PM ---I mean the jews tried to rebel from the Romans but they got their stuff kicked in --- End quote --- smh piss-poor k/ds in any case, i definitely don't think islam has nothing to do with anything here; the contents of the koran obviously give people ideas about how to vent and direct their frustrations, though i would be hesitant to say that all of this is purely and exclusively because these people follow islam. if there were nothing to fight against, they would not be fighting. if there were no oppressive regimes to overthrow, there would be no rebellion. what i'm seeing right now is a region breaking itself down so it can build itself back up and correct the social contract. and at the end of it all, this will probably result in a cultural shift that will probably coincide with some form of "new islam" (which is actually just a new application of the text to new cultural standards). i think that this could've all easily happened without islam, it just would've been boring old rebellion and riot. |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: otto-san on January 26, 2017, 08:26:08 PM ---smh piss-poor k/ds in any case, i definitely don't think islam has nothing to do with anything here; the contents of the koran obviously give people ideas about how to vent and direct their frustrations, though i would be hesitant to say that all of this is purely and exclusively because these people follow islam. if there were nothing to fight against, they would not be fighting. if there were no oppressive regimes to overthrow, there would be no rebellion. what i'm seeing right now is a region breaking itself down so it can build itself back up and correct the social contract. and at the end of it all, this will probably result in a cultural shift that will probably coincide with some form of "new islam" (which is actually just a new application of the text to new cultural standards). i think that this could've all easily happened without islam, it just would've been boring old rebellion and riot. --- End quote --- Would you be in favour of an open borders policy? Strict vetting? Or closed borders when it comes to unstable regions like the middle east? |
| Conan:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 08:28:54 PM ---Would you be in favour of an open borders policy? Strict vetting? Or closed borders when it comes to unstable regions like the middle east? --- End quote --- strict vetting is the obvious best case choice but the cost and time it takes to vet people will make this solution come under question. |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 08:28:54 PM ---Would you be in favour of an open borders policy? Strict vetting? Or closed borders when it comes to unstable regions like the middle east? --- End quote --- i think it'd certainly be nice to let people come into a safe region to escape those hecklands, but obviously national security interests are important and there has to be some kind of vetting procedure. i think the priority of these groups lies in their home regions and not abroad, but since they want to be taken seriously internationally, they're going to target others that they see as current or future opposition as well. |
| Tactical Nuke:
would anyone like to actually loving point out direct quotes from the bible that advocates for killing non-believers or are we going to keep continuing to dance around this strenuous connection at best yes, they're both branches of the same religious tree and the Islamic God is the same as the Christian God, but that's not as important as the prophets who teach the values of each religion you have Jeeeeeeeeeeesus who was all for salvation and redemption and nonviolence, he never taught his disciples to kill all nonbelievers, in fact one of the ten commandments is "do not kill" then you have Muhammad, the most back-asswards guy ever in retrospect, who tells people that jihad is a must, had a child wife, and taught the idea that it is morally JUST to kill infidels because they would all go to heaven I'm also going to keep linking this video until this idea that "izlum s peezfl" dies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg |
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