[NEWS] Feminists chant Allahu Akbar.

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SeventhSandwich:

--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 02:06:58 AM ---It depends. Is it a bunch of loving Albanians trying to start a colonial empire for trade or is it a jihad in the name of Allah?

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The first American colonists were definitely religiously motivated, although they weren't coming for war.

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Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620.
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--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 26, 2017, 02:06:58 AM ---The christian colonial powers still killed less then the muslims did of the time. Hell even if that smallpox epidemic in the seven years war was caused by colonists, muslims still killed more. If you look at South America and Mexico what do you see? They are not Spanish, the majority of those countries are Mestizo (mixed race), some (Bolivia) have a majority of pure native population.

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The data are pretty much irrelevant because even if we come up with a completely fair standard for what constitutes 'religious violence', the raw numbers are still gonna be within an order of magnitude. The take-away here isn't "their religion is x% more violent than ours!", it's "violence is a complicated thing that isn't predicted solely by religious scripture."

beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on January 26, 2017, 02:10:37 AM ---The first American colonists were definitely religiously motivated, although they weren't coming for war.

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So were the spanish. What about the rest of my post?

Red Spy:
The Spanish were loving cool

beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: Red Spy on January 26, 2017, 02:12:04 AM ---The Spanish were loving cool

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Make Mexico Spain Again. Restore the Spanish Monarchy (but no habsburgs this time)

SeventhSandwich:

--- Quote from: Red Spy on January 26, 2017, 02:12:04 AM ---The Spanish were loving cool

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They religiously persecuted the Native Americans and established probably the most brutal form of forced labor in American history, motivated by their 'god-given' mandate to conquer. I like how you guys rail off endlessly about Muslims driving trucks into crowds, but Spanish encomienda is 'loving cool'.

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