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[NEWS] Mosque in Quebec is attacked by gunmen
Decepticon:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 31, 2017, 06:35:22 PM ---The correlation is that with nationalism if you think your country is the best then you think other countries are inferior, different countries generally have different cultures so you think other cultures are inferior, etc.
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--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 31, 2017, 06:44:24 PM ---you can convert, but the idea is still "we were born into this religion, therefore we are superior" which is the basic idea behind nationalism. afaik if this is the case, they'll either accept converts or go more superficial and judge by race or something
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the base idea of nationalism is to protect your people/culture, borders, etc. and maybe occasionally help out others when we can (like for example if a major natural disaster happens or something along those lines) and try not to cause more problems during hard times
you can be a nationalist and still hold a respect for other cultures while wishing to uphold the preservation of your own
RedGajin:
--- Quote from: Decepticon on February 01, 2017, 04:07:58 PM ---the base idea of nationalism is to protect your people/culture, borders, etc. and maybe occasionally help out others when we can (like for example if a major natural disaster happens or something along those lines) and try not to cause more problems during hard times
you can be a nationalist and still hold a respect for other cultures while wishing to uphold the preservation of your own
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the base idea of nationalism is that your country is better than all others. like thats literally in the definition im p sure
PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Decepticon on February 01, 2017, 04:07:58 PM ---the base idea of nationalism is to protect your people/culture, borders, etc. and maybe occasionally help out others when we can (like for example if a major natural disaster happens or something along those lines) and try not to cause more problems during hard times
you can be a nationalist and still hold a respect for other cultures while wishing to uphold the preservation of your own
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you just described nationalism on paper. Unfortunately, what you described rarely exists in real life. An example of wanting what's best for your country is if there was a disease ravaging the population and you were to insist that we help ourselves before others. However, we live in a time where the country is not experiencing any major problems. Any problems that do exist, i.e. Flint michigan's water crCIA, detroit's education crCIA, etc. are not being addressed currently, while problems that involve foreign events, such as syrian refugees, immigration, and israel are being blown completely out of proportion by news, media, and even the president.
Nonnel:
problem is that "preservation of your own" leads to persecution of others. whether that's by stopping the evil jews or the evil muslims.
PhantOS:
Nationalism is a horrible and abusive concept that expresses superiority rather than self-preservation. It's nearly impossible for someone to have nationalistic views and at the same time respect other cultures. It's a complete conflict of interest, to say 'im better than everyone else' and 'I'm just as good as everyone else' in the same sentence.