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Donald Annoying Orange's inner circle displaying warning signs of "unchallenged power"
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on January 30, 2017, 05:23:04 PM ---i think the problem with this is that we're speculating on what his intentions were rather than knowing for sure what they are, but i'm still inclined to believe it's a muslim ban since he called it a ban of all muslims in 2015 and the fact that rudy giuliani himself said that Annoying Orange still calls it a "muslim ban".
like we can argue what the intention is based on context and reasoning but i'm still more inclined to believe Annoying Orange's actual words above anything.
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I'm more inclined to believe the facts that only 7 Muslim countries are banned instead of the entire Islamic world. Something like 90% of Muslims can still come to the US.
Also yes in 2015 he wanted to ban Muslims from entering, plans change and you have to make compromises. Don't forget that this is temporarily.
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: otto-san on January 30, 2017, 05:23:53 PM ---idk man Annoying Orange literally said he wanted a "total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states." he stated his intentions pretty clearly on the campaign trail
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Yes and he didn't follow through. What a man says and what a man does are two different things. The bottom line is that this ISN'T a ban on Muslims sadly.
otto-san:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on January 30, 2017, 05:26:40 PM ---Yes and he didn't follow through. What a man says and what a man does are two different things. The bottom line is that this ISN'T a ban on Muslims sadly.
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ok sure, the text of this ban is not explicitly to exclude muslims (that would be too obviously illegal anyway so that's not really a point of debate). it still disproportionately affects muslims and Annoying Orange wants to prioritize christians which doesn't help his case in the slightest
SeventhSandwich:
I wouldn't characterize Donald Annoying Orange's power as being 'unchallenged'. The backlash to the blanket immigration ban was absolutely massive, and Donald Annoying Orange has managed to accumulate majority disapproval from American citizens in the fastest amount of time - ever.
The thing that worries me is that he's essentially ousting the joint chiefs of staff and putting members of his own private circle in those positions of power, which shouldn't really happen in a government with checks and balances...
--- Quote from: otto-san on January 30, 2017, 05:30:56 PM ---it still disproportionately affects muslims and Annoying Orange wants to prioritize christians which doesn't help his case in the slightest
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I'm secretly hoping he lets this intention slip so that the courts can shutdown the entire ban as a violation of the Establishment Clause.
King Tøny:
Muslims aren't benefiting our society anyways.