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--- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 10:39:24 PM ---1: For the same amount of effort, Windows also offers a deep level of customisation and flexibility. A lot of that is hidden behind the mask of the Command Prompt, Group Policy Editor or the Registry Editor, but any decent power user will know how to find what they're looking for. 2: This is the biggest pile of stuff I've ever heard in my entire life. Nobody is watching you download hentai on Windows 10. Just because you've historically been a paranoid forgetwit in every Windows 10 thread that's come up, doesn't mean you get to claim baseless speculation as fact. 3: Which proves that you didn't spend more than 20 seconds in any Windows operating system. 4:See above. You are a tin-foil wearing rooster-jockey. 5: This is a curious one to me, because I haven't actually seen it in effect, and I know that anybody could very easily push malicious code to any Linux distribution's core. What's your point? 6: You come off as a raving lunatic. This is embarrassing. Let's just remember my other arguments I wrote today; The fact of the matter is that Linux is such a roundabout way to accomplish such a limited set of tasks. Have fun using your open-source software that has less than half the functionality of my commercial software. --- End quote --- 1: Sure. The whole point of what I said here was to show that you can modify Linux systems visually on a level greater than Windows 10 allows you to. I'm sorry that confused you. 2: It's possible that nobody is watching you in particular, but is it OK to spy on people just because you're not the target? This is a similar argument to "If you have nothing to hide, why should you be worried"? 3: Do you have any proof that you can modify anything further than the colors, the desktop background, and start menu on a vanilla Windows installation? 4. Here's some proof that Windows 10 and/or other Microsoft operating systems spies/spied on you: https://duo.com/blog/bring-your-own-dilemma-oem-laptops-and-windows-10-security http://www.itproportal.com/2014/05/14/microsoft-openly-offered-cloud-data-fbi-and-nsa/ http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40836.html https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/ https://web.archive.org/web/20151001035410/https://jonathan.porta.codes/2015/07/30/windows-10-seems-to-have-some-scary-privacy-defaults/ 5: What do you mean by "anybody could very easily push malicious code to any Linux distribution's core"? Yes, companies that make Linux distributions can push malicious things to their operating system. You need to remember this is the benefit of open-source: Anyone can modify it their self and then distribute that. If a distribution suddenly had spyware on it, other people can just remove it and then stop using the regular version of it. Windows, on the other hand, is proprietary closed-source, and you cannot remove it fully. Here is one case of the problem I mentioned in effect: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/15/candy-crush-windows_n_7292266.html --- Quote ---O: Can't play 90% of my game library. Can't use any of my asset extraction tools. Can't use any my game development tools (or at least, they aren't as stable as Windows/Mac). Can't use any of my audio library management tools. Can't use my video production tools. Can't use my media file conversion tools. Can't use my programming tools. Can't use my writing and time management applications. 6: Can't escape the fact that by admitting I'm proud to use Linux as my main OS, I'm a pretentious knobwank. --- End quote --- O: What programs are you using? I'd be more than happy to help you find an alternative or way to get it working. Have you done really any research on those applications? 6: You are stereotyping here. If your impression of a Linux user is me and only me, you should expand your range of thinking. While I like posting about it, many people use it and don't need to say it. |
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--- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---The only two instances where I can think this isn't true is for people making integrated systems and for the fringe crowd. Maybe for system admins, but even then... --- End quote --- Literally most of the tech industry runs linux, the only place where no one runs it is because they have proprietary obligations like the apps you talked about (Unity, Visual Studio, AutoCAD and other industry tools) Don't act like there's no one runs it when it has such a large market share. It is good for loads of things, I admit OPs list has laughable reasons, but it is used. |
| Nal:
--- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---Ignoring the media players for obscure and weird game audio formats; I've yet to find a single media player, outside of iTunes and some weird stuff my friend made, which has support for playlist folders. Probably doesn't sound like much, but that is personally a big deal for me. --- End quote --- VLC?? That's on linux --- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---Then where's the benefits? I've been asking all goddam day. Why would I consider using Linux over Windows in any situation? --- End quote --- Hosting servers, dated hardware, or if you want customization and don't care about games linux isn't for everybody mcjob --- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---And congratulations to you for rushing in to white knight your favourite operating system of choice. What a hero. --- End quote --- afaik foxscotch doesn't even use linux lol also you kind of barged into here trying to shut down any point the OP made so --- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---D and I have beef. This is a man who I've had legendary rows with because he won't drop the fact he's a conspiracy-focused nutcase. That's exactly why I replied. Had he not said a word about Windows, I wouldn't have raised a single complaint. I respect Linux as an alternative, but when somebody wants to spit in my face and dig up old arguments they lost...I ain't letting that slide. --- End quote --- His points of NSA spying are dumb, but that really wasn't the purpose of the thread |
| Foxscotch:
--- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---Then where's the benefits? I've been asking all goddam day. Why would I consider using Linux over Windows in any situation? --- End quote --- have you ever run a webserver? what about python development? ever tried to install something from source in windows? --- Quote from: McJob on January 31, 2017, 11:07:51 PM ---And congratulations to you for rushing in to white knight your favourite operating system of choice. What a hero. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Foxscotch on January 31, 2017, 10:59:07 PM ---I use windows and honestly I can't see myself maining linux --- End quote --- (and I am more concerned with you spreading blatant misinformation) |
| McJob:
--- Quote from: d on January 31, 2017, 11:14:35 PM ---What programs are you using? I'd be more than happy to help you find an alternative or way to get it working. Have you done really any research on those applications? --- End quote --- Let's focus on this. I really can't wait to see how you respond to this. I'll grab some big ones from the top of my head. And remember, I am a BIG stickler for the SAME level of functionality. As an example, Open/Libre Office is NOT a valid substitute for the Office Suite I use. Asset extraction tools include things like QuickBMS, Maki, Watto Game Extactor, Riveal, Gibbed's work, dotPeek and hundreds of other specialised tools for specific games. I use Unreal 4, Unity, Visual Studio (with VS Tools for Unreal/Unity), Photoshop CC 2016, Illustrator CC 2016, Maya 2016, Mudbox 2016, 3DS Max 2016, Mixamo Pro, Video Game Design Pro 2006, Microsoft Office 2013 (+Access & Publisher), Articy: Draft. For Video Production I use Adobe After Effects CC 2016 and Adobe Premier CC 2016. My audio management tools are iTunes (several iPods to manage and playlist folders), Mp3Tag and some custom apps my friend made. I also regularly use WinDirStat, PowerDirector 15, AnyDVD and VirtualBox, which in my experience doesn't handle the VMs I need as well if I'm not running Windows. --- Quote from: Nal on January 31, 2017, 11:21:08 PM ---VLC?? --- End quote --- It clips off parts of the beginning and ends of the songs, it has barebones capabilities for dealing with libraries (you can load and export playlists) and its DVD/Blu-Ray support is rough. Really, really rough. |
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