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[NEWS] Violent UC Berkeley riots force cancellation of Milo Yiannopoulos event
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Rally:
The right to assemble should only apply to people who democracy (not the left)
PhantOS:

--- Quote from: Rally on February 02, 2017, 03:40:11 PM ---The right to assemble should only apply to people who democracy (not the left)

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fake news
Corderlain:
Antifa promotes and practices violence.
rambo1220:

--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 02, 2017, 03:29:48 PM ---I always lol @ people who think that an organization that doesn't promote or order terrorist actions can be labeled a terrorist organization

With this entirely stupid and anger-driven ideology you can label the alt-right a terrorist organization because 10 of them beat up someone. loving hilarious. What's even worse is that it isn't even an organization; it's a movement. Haha

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Except for Antifa it's not 10 people, it's thousands nation-wide partaking in this stuff. If it's a movement then it's a terrorist movement, because all they've done for anyone is just cause damage and destruction. If destroying buildings and smashing windows, along with beating innocent people to the point where people are drawing guns to defend themselves isn't considered terrorism then this country is forgeted.


--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on February 02, 2017, 03:38:39 PM ---im not gonna justify their actions, only explain them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_polarization

when a group of angry individuals gets together and they find their beliefs unchallenged among that group, they ramp up what they believe to the extreme. and because they act as a group and lose their sense of individuality, the consequences seem far away to them as an individual. this is another example of organized fury turning into a primal outlash. the problem is rooted not within violent individuals, but the discord causing this incredibly angry conglomerate to form in the first place. the only way to stop riots like these is not some stupid stuff like protest-suppression bills, but rather an easing of the tensions producing these situations. this requires people on both sides of the political spectrum to negotiate closer to the center.

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But the issue here is that only one side is open to discussion, which oddly enough is the right/alt-right, because any time they try to discuss with the left they are met with shouting matches, examples such as HWNDU and BJ On The Streets, where they literally make a wall around you with people, and don't allow your opinion to be heard.

The problem isn't negotiating, the problem is that only one side is open to it, and the other doesn't want to.
PhantOS:

--- Quote from: rambo1220 on February 02, 2017, 04:17:59 PM ---Except for Antifa it's not 10 people, it's thousands nation-wide partaking in this stuff. If it's a movement then it's a terrorist movement, because all they've done for anyone is just cause damage and destruction. If destroying buildings and smashing windows, along with beating innocent people to the point where people are drawing guns to defend themselves isn't considered terrorism then this country is forgeted.

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neo national socialistsm isn't a terrorist organizations, yet several people who follow the movement have engaged in terrorist-like activities. Most notable would be Dylan Roof as a recent example.

Terrorist movements don't exist. You cannot try and arrest someone as a 'terrorist' because they believe in something. You can, however, try and arrest someone for engaging in terrorist activities, violent protesting not one of these. If someone who claims to be anti-fascist decides to barge into a Milo meeting and shoot it up, that person is considered a terrorist. If the antifa website says "show up to this meeting and shoot people" they can officially be considered a terrorist organization, loosely. So far none of these things have happened, although a couple members did almost attempt to stinkbomb a rally or something. That's as close to terrorism as they've ever gotten
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