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--- Quote from: LeisureSuit912 on February 06, 2017, 10:39:23 AM ---I don't know why anyone would read anything by Ben Shapiro, but ok. Also, the myth that Hollywood is "left-wing" is bullstuff. Yeah, you get awards speeches by celebrities about diversity and loveuality all the time, but it's contained within a bubble of superficial centrist garbage that panders to people's liberal sensibilities. The studios are run by white people, the majority of producers are white, white actors and actresses get most of the recognition. Trust me, Hollywood isn't "left" outside of their canned speeches about liberal politics. The most telling thing should be that the same night the protests at JFK were going on, the SAG awards were that night and a ton of celebrities gave speeches about how terrible the Muslim ban was instead of joining the swath of protesters in the streets. Hollywood isn't run by leftists, it's run by neoliberals disguised as leftists. --- End quote --- well you responded to almost none of my questions but let me elaborate on Primetime Propaganda: --- Quote from: Wikipedia ---As one part of the evidence, Shapiro presents statements from taped interviews made by celebrities and TV show creators from Hollywood whom he interviewed for the book. The book include quotes from, amongst others, the co-creator of Friends, Marta Kauffman, and the creator of Soap and Golden Girls, Susan Harris. Another argument is that conservatives are shunned in the industry. For example, Vin Di Bona, a producer responsible for a large number of hit television shows, agreed during an interview with Shapiro that Hollywood promotes a liberal political agenda, commenting, "I'm happy about it, actually." Di Bona also said that MacGyver, the cult hit show on which he was a producer, promoted an anti-gun movement position, as the character of MacGyver does not use a gun, but rather his own intelligence. People involved with television shows M*A*S*H and Happy Days told Shapiro that the series had pacifistic and anti-Vietnam War agendas. Another example is the television show Sesame Street which is accused of deliberately spreading left-wing propaganda to children. Producer Leonard Goldberg stated to Shapiro that in the industry liberalism is "100 percent dominant, and anyone who denies it is kidding, or not telling the truth," and when Shapiro asked if politics are a barrier to entry replied, "Absolutely." Producer and director Nicholas Meyer replied "Well, I hope so," when asked if conservatives are discriminated against, and stated regarding the 1983 made-for-TV film The Day After that, "My private, grandiose notion was that this movie would unseat Ronald Reagan when he ran for re-election." Executive Fred Silverman stated regarding TV comedy nowadays that "...there’s only one perspective, and it’s a very progressive perspective. And if you want the other perspective... well it's just not there right now." TV series COPS creator John Langley stated that he prefers showing segments where whites are the criminals because he fears that he would be promoting negative stereotypes. Shapiro states that he was "...shocked by the openness of the Hollywood crowd when it came to admitting anti-conservative discrimination inside the industry". He argues that nepotism in Hollywood rarely is familial, but rather is ideological by friends hiring friends with the same ideological views: "The same people who talk about tolerance and diversity have no tolerance for ideological diversity." He also states: "...the liberal content we see on primetime television and in daytime soaps is typically hidden in plot and character...I go through probably 100 shows in detail in Primetime Propaganda – and virtually all of them are messaged, either blatantly or subtly." Portions of some of the interviews which were released onto the internet to promote the book, particularly the Di Bona interview, caused the director and producer Lionel Chetwynd to resign from the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors. In an open letter, he wrote about the reaction of other members of the caucus to Republican Party politicians: "In preparing his book, Mr. Shapiro interviewed a large number of our Hollywood notables on the subject of diversity -- not the sacrosanct melange of race, religion, gender orientation and the like, but a more challenging diversity: that of opinion and policy. The vast majority felt quite comfortable endorsing discrimination against those whose political philosophy was not rooted in the reflexive Leftism of Hollywood," and "I knew most of my fellow members looked upon the political positions of these people as distasteful; what I now understand is the disgust was not for their views, but for their very person". Another argument by Shapiro is that Hollywood has overemphasized the importance of the 18-49 market for advertisers. Initially, as admitted by executives during the taped interviews, this view was promoted by ABC in the late 1960s since the network had poor ratings and needed to increase advertising revenue in some way. Shapiro argues that the situation may change quickly in future since new technologies, such content delivered by the Internet, may dramatically change the media landscape. --- End quote --- http://www.reuters.com/article/us-hollywood-idUSTRE7517JQ20110602 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tv-executives-admit-taped-interviews-193116 you also understate the leftist bias at the SAG awards, there was more than just sappy anti-immigration-ban speeches, there were literal calls to arms notice how everyone in the audience is rallying with David Harbour here, BTW when you say that all the nominal people are white, well, I think #OscarsSoWhite destroys the notion that that's an acceptable thing in Hollywood the problem with Hollywood is not that it's completely leftist, it's that it thinks it's not leftist enough |
| Corderlain:
Wikipedia is a biased source. |
| :egg::
What ever happened to hunger strikes or just having a crowed with picket signs on the side of the road. |
| Gytyyhgfffff:
--- Quote from: :egg: on February 06, 2017, 01:22:49 PM ---What ever happened to hunger strikes or just having a crowed with picket signs on the side of the road. --- End quote --- they are too boring and too effective for today's protesters |
| The Resonte!:
--- Quote from: :egg: on February 06, 2017, 01:22:49 PM ---What ever happened to hunger strikes --- End quote --- they'd starve to death --- Quote from: :egg: on February 06, 2017, 01:22:49 PM ---having a crowed with picket signs on the side of the road. --- End quote --- they'd be ignored |
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