Petition to recognize antifa as domestic terrorism

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King Tøny:
As an organization leader if your members are beating people up and acting out of line, then kick them out of the group.

If the leaders don't kick these people out of the group, then the group as a whole is accountable.

They are terrorists.

Rally:

--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 03, 2017, 02:27:52 PM ---but that's the very thing i'm telling you. they are acting on their own collective. it doesn't matter if other members of antifa refuse to recognize it as a crime or condemn it, those who do that are complete handicaps. what matters is that antifa as a movement/group/organization doesn't visibly support that small collective of organized rioters who attacked Milo's event.

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Let's go rob a bank together. You go in and get the cash, I'll be the get away driver. I'm just driving down the road though, you're acting of your own volition. I haven't done anything violent. I can't be held responsible for what you do, right?

It is literally impossible to distinguish between "the TRUE Scotsman antifa" and "the fake antifa" when half of them are throwing around Molotov roostertails, beating the stuff out of people, and running around in absolute chaos.

--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 03, 2017, 02:27:52 PM ---Known terrorist groups like IRA, CIA, Al qaeda, Hezbollah etc. all organize their own terror attacks, make it publicly known AND continue to take responsibility for the attacks and further support it. So far, antifa has shown that the first and second aspect is up in the air, and the third hasn't actually been done yet. Plus, antifa has no central leadership or organization since it's a loving movement, and therefore cannot command or decide on attacks.

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When are we gonna drop this "no leadership no consequences" bullstuff? You cannot organize an assembly of hundreds of loving people without 'leadership'. When people refer to "anti-fa" they aren't referring to everyone sitting on their couch at home tweeting "forget whitey #antifa" they're referring to the hundreds of people that organize in groups in the street to wreck stuff protest alongside a totally separate group of rioters under the same name/flag/event

--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 03, 2017, 02:27:52 PM ---If you have a tweet or message from whoever runs Antifa's website or coordination that says "shut this event down using violent means!" then I will be convinced without doubt that it is a terrorist faction. Until I see that, it is to be assumed that the attackers have no say or decision over antifa's actions, and acted on their own.

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You realize that people were able to do this stuff before the internet, right? They're not going to pass down orders through a public twitter feed. Anti-fa, just like any other political organization, has a separate social media front for recruitment. Leaders, organizers and others interface with people like you and me through social media. It gives 0 insight into what actually happens within the organization.

Rally:
Here's an idea: Lets start a new '''movement''' called 'Antifa 2' but this time we're actually going to accept responsibility for the outcome of massive political assemblies (instead of just blaming it on a 'lack of leadership') and prevent people who want to loving burn stuff and beat people in the street from attending our events

EDIT: And another new movement called "Black Lives Actually Really Matter This Time"

Corderlain:
Don't use logic it's unfair for him.

Edit: Say it with me: terrorist.

otto-san:
if you participated in protests against a highly controversial president, you are an accomplice to terrorism. apparently.

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