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Anthony Fantano takes on PJW's "The Truth on Popular Culture"
PhantOS:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on February 08, 2017, 04:50:11 PM ---I like the parallel that Anthony drew between PJW and Anita Sarkeesian, that they're practically arguing from the same standpoint of the corruption of pop culture, and yet you'll find the same type of people hail PJW's opinion, but discard Anita's.
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it's because PJW fans know The Truth on Feminism
Insert Name Here²:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on February 08, 2017, 04:44:31 PM ---I just don't see how anyone can agree with this point, it's such a wild and bombastic claim
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This isn't why I agree with him btw
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on February 08, 2017, 04:44:31 PM ---pop culture is becoming so derivative and embarrassingly obscure that it's posing a direct threat to western society
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This is.
Tbh today's pop culture is trash, from the songs, clothing fads, society norm s and alike, now adays it's just extremely sub-par and trashy
In some years though it'll change so at least I have that to look forward to
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on February 08, 2017, 04:54:12 PM ---Tbh today's pop culture is trash, from the songs, clothing fads, society norm s and alike, now adays it's just extremely sub-par and trashy
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Herein lies the root of your problem: You think it's bad because you don't like it. Pop culture isn't degrading, it just feels like it is because over the past half century, the rise of the internet help spread pop culture so far and so wide that it's hard to get a good framed picture of the state of pop culture today.
The best part of pop culture today is how many new forms of art are being consumed on a mainstream basis. More people are opening up to trying videogames and tabletop games, more people are reading literature, there's more nuance in modern music, a whole truckload of experimental and postmodern artists are starting to gain recognition, and many and are finally able to sufficiently self-publish for the world to see without any hassle.
log:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on February 08, 2017, 04:33:00 PM ---I'm on PJW's side entirely with this tbh
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pop. culture is going less and less to serve cultural values. it's getting worse.
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: log on February 08, 2017, 05:04:03 PM ---pop. culture is going less and less to serve cultural values.
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What do you mean by this? How is popular culture not revolving around western cultural values? I'm having a hard time understanding your point, because it looks like you're saying it's a bad thing that pop culture is pushing and prodding cultural boundaries.