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| Anthony Fantano takes on PJW's "The Truth on Popular Culture" |
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| log:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on February 08, 2017, 05:08:20 PM ---What do you mean by this? How is popular culture not revolving around western cultural values? I'm having a hard time understanding your point, because it looks like you're saying it's a bad thing that pop culture is pushing and prodding cultural boundaries. --- End quote --- traditional sources of value," holy men and sin, grandmothers and families, regional loyalties and two-thousand-year-old traditions," are antagonistic to pop. culture. it downright ignores "the esteem the discipline, skill, and taste that are required to produce enduring art." (Neil Postman) |
| Mega-Bear:
Just gonna pop in and say Fantano's top albums for January are terrible. foxygen's horrible revivalism?? Really Anthony?? |
| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: log on February 08, 2017, 05:27:01 PM ---traditional sources of value, holy men and sin, grandmothers and families, regional loyalties and two-thousand-year-old traditions, are antagonistic to pop. culture. --- End quote --- I wouldn't say it's antagonistic, it's more a symptom of experimental or post-modern pop culture pushing the boundaries on values or turning inwards to satirize things the artist feels might be held on a pedestal or might be held so dear that it's held as infallible. To say that pop culture in general antagonizes traditional western values is kind ignorant, I have to say. --- Quote from: log on February 08, 2017, 05:27:01 PM ---it downright ignores the esteem the discipline, skill, and taste that are required to produce enduring art. --- End quote --- Art and popular culture are two of the same coin, my friend. I don't think most artists are that short-sighted enough to undermine the value of their own work. On the idea of ignoring the skill and sacrifice to produce lasting art, enduring art isn't something that happens in a vacuum. It's a piece that is capable of either capturing an era so intricately in a still frame, or it's a timeless piece that can be representative of any culture beyond it's initial creation that can be enjoyed by anyone in any time. --- Quote from: Mega-Bear on February 08, 2017, 05:30:09 PM ---Just gonna pop in and say Fantano's top albums for January are terrible. foxygen's horrible revivalism?? Really Anthony?? --- End quote --- He's literally wrong about all music, it's almost staggering. |
| Rockinboy2000:
i feel like PJW is trying to appeal to the "i was born in the wrong generation" crowd who listen to nirvana, pink floyd and queen, which would make sense, that crowd of hipsters think anything past 2000/2010 is a spawn of satan that is hellbent on grabbing western culture by the roots and ripping it to shreds, all you have to do is ask what kind of artists or genres of music they like and if its indie, EDM, House, "Speedcore", or anything else in that category as their favorites then thats more than enough a reason to disregard what they think |
| Mega-Bear:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on February 08, 2017, 05:32:23 PM ---He's literally wrong about all music, it's almost staggering. --- End quote --- Huh I thought you were a fan since you have him as an avatar. Good to know ur patrish, Ike!! |
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