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[NEWS] President Annoying Orange's travel ban still halted by federal court
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Rally:
If 'terror attacks' included rape and murder that number would be in outer space


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on February 10, 2017, 02:50:54 PM ---Wasn't that proven to mean "oh my god"

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It means something different when you're detonating a bomb in a crowd of innocent people
otto-san:

--- Quote from: Corderlain on February 10, 2017, 02:47:22 PM ---Thus lies the issue with our current checks and balance system. One of the checks and balances itself has no check nor balance. Who's watching the watchers and all that.

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president appoints judges, congress approves them, and congress gets to rewrite law to work around rulings. seems pretty workable. judges can still be impeached, too, and in fact i think judges have been impeached for bias and arbitrary rulings in the past. in the case of the travel ban, the power for the executive order is granted to the president from congress. if the courts determine there is no current legal basis for the order, congress could literally just change law to allow it, and then bam, it's legal unless it's determined that higher law prohibits it (in this case, the constitution is the only law higher than acts of congress). or even better, congress could just pass legislation on their own to instate the ban while they're at it, but that wouldn't be very workable in the future
e-maxx:

--- Quote from: Rally on February 10, 2017, 02:52:36 PM ---If 'terror attacks' included rape and murder that number would be in outer space

It means something different when you're detonating a bomb in a crowd of innocent people

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but then we would have to ban black people
Corderlain:

--- Quote from: otto-san on February 10, 2017, 02:53:15 PM ---president appoints judges, congress approves them, and congress gets to rewrite law to work around rulings. seems pretty workable. judges can still be impeached, too, and in fact i think judges have been impeached for bias and arbitrary rulings in the past. in the case of the travel ban, the power for the executive order is granted to the president from congress. if the courts determine there is no current legal basis for the order, congress could literally just change law to allow it, and then bam, it's legal unless it's determined that higher law prohibits it (in this case, the constitution is the only law higher than acts of congress). or even better, congress could just pass legislation on their own to instate the ban while they're at it, but that wouldn't be very workable in the future

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I know how it works, I'm saying it's immensely difficult to prove a bias in the judiciary system.
SWAT One:

--- Quote from: Rally on February 10, 2017, 02:45:56 PM ---Obama didn't put restrictions on Saudi in 2015 either, because they don't come from Saudi. There are no asylum seekers in Saudi because they don't want them. Saudi filters it's terrorist agents through Syria and then sends them to western nations as 'refugees'

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What's the source on this bullstuff?


--- Quote from: Rally on February 10, 2017, 02:49:57 PM ---Lmfao nice fake news bro. I guess they were all mentally ill and just screaming Allah Akbar because they liked the way it sounds

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Because their holy book is written in Arabic and for a long time (iirc it still is, today) recited in only Arabic, and its prayers have always been in Arabic since the founding of the religion.  Doing so is just adherence to faith, and has no inherent relation to nationality.  The Catholic Church held all masses around the globe in Latin until the Second Vatican Conference, in 1959.  What you hear in the Muslim world is just common practice.

So to you I say:

--- Quote from: Rally on February 10, 2017, 02:49:57 PM ---Lmfao nice fake news bro.

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