Author Topic: #PewDiePieDidNothingWrong  (Read 24124 times)

When you went out of your way multiple times to defend or minimize antifa as just a few random guys following a hashtag and not an organized gang that showed up in the hundreds, wearing masks, to shut down a speech by beating people up and starting fires.

I mean maybe I'm being overly polarizing here but when there's droves of self-described communist revolutionaries in the streets and you're making excuses for them I see that as tacit endorsement.  

And here you're defending out of context character assassination for the purpose of hurting someone financially.
i dont agree with what antifa does or stands for. whenever i google antifa i find the movement and multiple websites for different people that believe in different things, etc etc. I don't believe that the entire wing of the anti-fascist movement is composed of terrorists or should be considered a terrorist organization, especially since its a movement. if there's a group under the same name that organizes violent riots for the sake of spreading fear or putting down free speech, then by all means consider them a terrorist organization- i just havent seen it yet.

honestly disney shouldn't even be associated with pewdiepie to begin with, considering the fact that he's definitely nowhere near PG-13. i believe that if disney didn't already know that this partnership was a bad financial move, they do now and that's perfectly fine. there are other businesses that have the right to support pewdiepie and his out of context jokes, and i still love pewdiepie and his videos. i just don't believe that disney is wrong for making their decision.

i dont agree with what antifa does or stands for. whenever i google antifa i find the movement and multiple websites for different people that believe in different things, etc etc. I don't believe that the entire wing of the anti-fascist movement is composed of terrorists or should be considered a terrorist organization, especially since its a movement. if there's a group under the same name that organizes violent riots for the sake of spreading fear or putting down free speech, then by all means consider them a terrorist organization- i just havent seen it yet.
There's not multiple Antifa's, there's one, which is Antifa, if people don't agree with it then they don't support it, so the ones that do support it do incite violence and the harming of others, for example look at that European reporter who tried to do a news piece in front of one of their hangouts, they were chased out all the way to their car blocks away while having bottles thrown at them, and then look at the $100,000 in damages in Berkeley.

Also calling something a movement does not remove it's negative connotation.

Disney retracting a deal with him because he made a joke they didn't like? Completely within their rights as a company if they don't want to be associated with whatever jokes he makes.
Writing articles taking stuff out of context to make him look bad? Not good. In the slightest. There should be no debate about that, even if he can take it.

There's not multiple Antifa's, there's one, which is Antifa, if people don't agree with it then they don't support it, so the ones that do support it do incite violence and the harming of others, for example look at that European reporter who tried to do a news piece in front of one of their hangouts, they were chased out all the way to their car blocks away while having bottles thrown at them, and then look at the $100,000 in damages in Berkeley.

Also calling something a movement does not remove it's negative connotation.
I already said that it's a negative connotation. Just because something is a negative connotation doesn't mean you have the power to completely change the united states' legal system to declare an ideology as terrorism.

either way, the only 'antifa' entity i've ever seen is the anti fascist network, which already on its own website states that the grassroots groups are working independently to stop fascism, not as a collective. There are antifa groups across the world, all over europe and in the united states. unlike a real legal terrorist group, its just a bunch of independently acting groups that are protesting in both nonviolent and violent forms. The nonviolent ones are clearly organized, while the violent ones are random people who break into a mob or show up separate from the others and cause violence.

the attack at the milo thing and that stinkbomb incident are probably domestic terrorism under our legal system, but there's no connection between the two besides the fact that they were committed by people who fly the same flag.
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if there's a group under the same name that organizes violent riots for the sake of spreading fear or putting down free speech, then by all means consider them a terrorist organization- i just havent seen it yet.

do they have to post it on twitter or the front page of google for you to see it

hundreds of people didn't just show up at Milo's event to burn stuff of their own random volition, that stuff was organized, and it can't be excused because some of them were just willfully enabling it instead of participating

do they have to post it on twitter or the front page of google for you to see it

hundreds of people didn't just show up at Milo's event to burn stuff of their own random volition, that stuff was organized, and it can't be excused because some of them were just willfully enabling it instead of participating
citation needed

antifa as just a few random guys following a hashtag and not an organized gang that showed up in the hundreds
it's neither of these things, it's somewhere in the middle.

Good guy Vox is really trying to push a case for PewDiePie being part of the alt-right movement.




Clearly he is making an effort to appear more national socialist-like, right? This crap is like pizzagate all over again

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To the argument that Disney is for kids so of course they would shy away from anything that has Riddler in it for any reason, let's take a look at what Disney owns:
  • Lucasfilm
    • Star Wars - The entire empire is based on the national socialists.  They sell Halloween costumes for this stuff.  That's right have little Johnny dress up as Darth Vader, der furher's number one SS trooper.
    • Indiana Jones - Indy wears a national socialist uniform and gets an autograph from Adolph Riddler himself.  Then he murders a bunch of people.
  • Touchstone Pictures
    There's a lot of movies here so I'll just pick a few.
    • Surrogates - Features the murder of a trans person
    • Apocalypto - A film about human sacrifice.
    • The Prestige - Animal cruelty.  There's more, but I don't want to spoil it
  • The History Channel
    Literally nicknamed "the Riddler channel"
  • Marvel
    Ya think Riddler might appear somewhere in here?
  • Lifetime
    Literally every single lifetime tv movie is about a woman being raped or abused.

The points are this: Context is important.  Disney is not just cartoon fairy tales.  At some point Disney will own all media.

i completely forgot how many rape jokes pewdiepie made per video

He makes a bunch of offensive jokes quite often. How Disney didn't end up figuring this out sooner is quite hilarious when you think about it. Makes you really wonder why they decided to drop him now...

they dropped him now because they don't want to be associated with someone that's under fire for being a neo-national socialist or w/e. it wouldn't surprise me at all if they partner up again after this is all blown over

It's quite interesting how fast they dropped him over one hitpiece. If I were a career youtuber right now, I'd be stuffting bricks over the precedence here.

yeah, i don't imagine it would've been so bad if it weren't for the current political climate. stakes are high right now

The points are this: Context is important.  Disney is not just cartoon fairy tales.  At some point Disney will own all media.
You're right, it's totally important, but the difference between showing actual history and making a joke is that different people have different senses of humor. History is a lot more objective. If a company doesn't like a joke and doesn't want to be associated with it, that's their perogative, and Felix himself even says he fully respects and understands that. Disney is definitely not in the wrong here.

EDIT: Making it a little more clear, darn me for staying up past 1 AM
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  • The History Channel
    Literally nicknamed "the Riddler channel"

Wait they own that what the forget