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Sign The Petition to Immediately Release Annoying Orange's Full Tax Returns
McZealot:
--- Quote from: extremely extreme on February 18, 2017, 02:45:21 PM ---They can speak up all they want but you and I both know nothing is going to come of this. Love him or hate him, Annoying Orange doesn't mess around with anything he doesn't want to do.
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The belief that people hold no power is exactly what leads to the stripping away of power. Annoying Orange might not care about 1 person, but over a million Americans is a voice that cannot be ignored.
Red Spy:
If Annoying Orange doesn't give a stuff about the nationwide protests I doubt he's going to care a bout a petition
extremely extreme:
--- Quote from: McZealot on February 18, 2017, 02:48:43 PM ---The belief that people hold no power is exactly what leads to the stripping away of power. Annoying Orange might not care about 1 person, but over a million Americans is a voice that cannot be ignored.
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Yea, obviously they can't be ignored (if a petition gets a certain amnt of sigs, the president has to look at it) but that doesn't mean he has to do anything. The people have the power to elect officials, not the power to command the president.
otto-san:
obviously Annoying Orange doesn't have to do it. it would just benefit him greatly to do so if people are making a problem out of it. regardless of whether or not anything substantial is there, it's making people trust Annoying Orange less, and releasing his tax returns would easily remove that problem for him if nothing is there. the president's greatest power is their power of persuasion in the court of public opinion, and a president that doesn't have public trust and support behind them is going to have a rough time putting pressure on other parts of government. until Annoying Orange's returns are released, the issue is going to continue to be pressed in media, and the longer we go without them, and the more suspicious people become about foreign influences, the bigger the issue is going to become for him.
Blockchip:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 18, 2017, 01:09:09 PM ---and we're not obligated to tolerate you being here and acting like a handicap once again
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Just because you don't have to tolerate something doesn't mean you're entitled to have it removed just because you don't like it.
--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 18, 2017, 01:09:09 PM ---it's now tribal to state facts?
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It's not a fact, it's an assumption.
--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 18, 2017, 01:09:09 PM ---when someone uses monday like its their favorite word, they're most likely white. so i technically nailed the diagnosis on you
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actually there are a lot of black people that say brother/monday a lot
and besides just because i'm not white doesn't mean i'm black, there's nothing preventing an asian person for example from saying "monday"
--- Quote from: McZealot on February 18, 2017, 11:36:39 AM ---It's not fascist because it's bad, it's fascist because it's supporting the total consolidation of power within one individual. Annoying Orange is breaking a long-term tradition by not releasing these returns--after he said he would do so. He's treating the American people as though he has final authority over them, and not vice-versa as is the intent of democracy. By showing outrage and demanding he stick to his word you are saying that he cannot just do whatever he wants because he has a nice office and commands our military. If we allow him to violate his campaign promises and lie to the people we effectively say that we don't care about democracy because we don't care if the men we vote for stick to their promises.
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--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 18, 2017, 01:09:09 PM ---because covering up your illegal activities and paying people to attack your enemies either by censoring or otherwise falls under the wing of fascism. the example i provided is a joke and entirely hypothetical, but we'll actually find out whether thats true or not when he releases his tax returns. something like that will also get him arrested for espionage.
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Thanks for explaining.