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| [Debate] The Media Wars - PewDiePie the national socialist? or Mainstream Media the national socialist? |
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| AutoBahn:
This is hilariously overblown. There is practically no mainstream media(Besides FOX and arguably WSJ) that is really hopping on this bandwagon to accuse Pewdiepie. For example, searching 'Pewdiepie news' in Google News at this moment and going through the list shows the top organizations reporting on it are: For The Win, an (at a glance) esports/celeb tabloid with a total of 3 paragraphs in their report that aren't particularly biased one way or the other, Polygon(I shouldn't even have to say anything about this one, it's loving Polygon), Business Insider, which sounds reputable until you look at their home page and see it's plastered with news about Annoying Orange with titles like "Annoying Orange isn't adjusting well to life in the White House — he's reportedly experiencing 'cabin fever'", Global news, whose report isn't biased one way or the other, Russia Today, unbiased, Forbes(not going to link them because of their atrocious splash page), with an article that calls him 'edgy' but says that 'fascist' is going too far(take that as you will on that one, really), CNET, with the opening line "PewDiePie is taking a cue from President Donald Annoying Orange -- blame the media." who are more widely known for their free malware(don't worry, it's Wikipedia explaining) than they are for their news I could go on and list more articles that are either unbiased or are already known to be full of trash, but I think my point's been proven. There's not really any mainstream media (as in, widely recognized across the nation as a major source for news) besides FOX and WSJ hopping on this dumb 'accuse youtuber of anti-semitism, get clicks!' bandwagon. If there are major sources other than those two that are doing this, feel free to link them. |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Master Matthew² on February 19, 2017, 12:02:14 PM ---Why not survey the vast majority of people, that way you can get a fair represtentation? --- End quote --- I believe you go down on record for saying that anybody who lived in certain states don't deserve the right to vote, and here you are talking about interviewing a vast majority of people. I think your definition of vast majority is anybody who believes in the same stupid bullstuff that you believe in. Mainstream Media has always been proficient in cherry picking little bits of information for their own benefit, and even the smaller sites will try to do it as it helps them gain more popularity. You make it sound like all this pewdiepie stuff is one of its kind meanwhile this kind of thing has been happening since the introduction of modern journalism. People don't like to read the news, they like to read controversial opinions and lies provided by other people, which they can agree on and then feel better about themselves for holding a 'popular opinion'. Real news rarely exists, and when it does, everyone hates it because they can't handle what it means to read real news |
| McZealot:
TIL CNET is more than a malware distributor |
| Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 19, 2017, 12:28:23 PM ---I believe you go down on record for saying that anybody who lived in certain states don't deserve the right to vote, and here you are talking about interviewing a vast majority of people. --- End quote --- I never said 'people in certain states don't deserve the right vote'. I said that allowing mobrule, by giving the vote to the sole majority wouldn't be a good idea, as well as leaving it in the hands of a few wouldn't be good either. Having a mix allows for fair representation without going full on toward the 'absolute popularity'. Besides, this really doesn't have to do with the 'fairness' of it, does it. This happens everytime an election rolls around, it didn't go "this side's way", and the popular vote didn't match the electoral vote. I can't imagine being salty about an election for six months straight. --- Quote from: PhantOS on February 19, 2017, 12:28:23 PM ---I think your definition of vast majority is anybody who believes in the same stupid bullstuff that you believe in. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: PhantOS on February 19, 2017, 12:28:23 PM ---Mainstream Media has always been proficient in cherry picking little bits of information for their own benefit, and even the smaller sites will try to do it as it helps them gain more popularity. You make it sound like all this pewdiepie stuff is one of its kind meanwhile this kind of thing has been happening since the introduction of modern journalism. --- End quote --- Okay you're right and wrong here. So the thing here is, yes all Media outlets will always cherry pick stories to gather views, this is a bait and switch method to gain money and bring in new readers. But it used to be that media outlets had both very truthful and maybe not so view-gathering stories, alongside their cherry picked bait. But the problem is that Mainstream Media has become so reliant on cherry picked bait articles, it is all that they are willing to use. PewDiePie is not one of a kind, but it was a poorer decision than those that came before him. He has over 50,000,000 subscribers, and daily views that more than octuple that, this dwarfs anything in relation to the views that go to mainstream media outlets and it is catching up to titans like even that of CNN, CNN at their peak got 93 Million Unique views per month according to CNN themselves, while pewdiepie on January 13th, in a single day PewDiePie got 78% of that at 73 million views. PewDiePie is catching up, and the smaller outlets are trying to ride on his coat-tails, in the end all their gonna do is make the situation that much worse. --- Quote from: PhantOS on February 19, 2017, 12:28:23 PM ---People don't like to read the news, they like to read controversial opinions and lies provided by other people, which they can agree on and then feel better about themselves for holding a 'popular opinion'. Real news rarely exists, and when it does, everyone hates it because they can't handle what it means to read real news --- End quote --- This is again true and false, people don't read these things to feel better about holding a 'popular opinion', people read the news because this is what is written and determined to be considered news, and the mainstream media almost never covers any real news anymore. The Mainstream Media has become a more prestigious tabloid, honestly, you'd get more reliable sources from the bait-magazines at your local shopping centre. |
| Tactical Nuke:
is there a reason why you didn't post this in my thread |
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