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| [NEWS] Republican bill will reduce free school lunch |
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| Trogtor:
--- Quote from: Frankie² on February 24, 2017, 03:34:21 PM ---my highschool lunches were commonly $7-$10 --- End quote --- did you go to a private school or something that's obsurd |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on February 24, 2017, 10:48:14 AM ---double posting to address this- Cutting down on the number of students on free lunch programs doesn't automatically give companies more money. Odds are the school either employs directly their kitchen staff or contracts a company to send people in to cook. Those people still get paid regardless of if someone receives a "free" lunch. The company still gets paid for providing the service if contracted. The money likely comes out of the taxpayer's pocket to pay for these free lunches. That's like saying reducing the gas tax would give oil companies more money. It doesn't work that way. If you're referring to things like safety/environmental regulations, that's an entirely different issue. --- End quote --- my post was unrelated to the school lunch aspect, it was a response to red spy. safety environment regulations. --- Quote from: Trogtor on February 24, 2017, 10:30:49 AM ---I'm hoping they're just reducing free lunch to the students that need it. i went to a high school and practically a quarter of the students were on free lunch and most of them were more than able to afford it. --- End quote --- 'able to afford it' is really subjective if you don't know their family's entire financial situation through and through. there are families that may earn a total of 80-100k a year but that all gets lost to rent, medical bills, electricity, clothing and other necessities that are required to live. it's not below the poverty line, but after all the budgeting is complete they may be left over with like 8-10,000$ a year for personal things, and that also disappears pretty quickly for things like netflix subscriptions, computer fixes, various services that cost money. paid lunch would reduce 800$ out of that final budget, which seems like not a lot but it could really be used for other things. I live with my mother & she's a single parent, she earns around 50-60k a year and we're a two people household. regardless, there's barely enough money to go around for personal luxuries and on top of that she's super stressed with work and other aspects of life. I pay for breakfast and dinner out of my paycheck because she can't afford it anymore. if i now had to pay 4$ extra for lunch I would literally kill myself on top of that we also live in new york, which is a rent nightmare. the lesson is don't be so liberal on who you label 'able to afford lunch' because you'd really be surprised by who can and can't |
| Alternat¡ve:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on February 24, 2017, 06:02:40 PM ---that also disappears pretty quickly for things like netflix subscriptions, computer fixes, various services that cost money. paid lunch would reduce 800$ out of that final budget, which seems like not a lot but it could really be used for other things. --- End quote --- If you can't afford lunch for your children then you shouldn't be paying for things as trivial as Netflix. |
| Tactical Nuke:
meanwhile my school is running a campaign against wasting food didn't John Oliver talk about how insane the food waste in this country is? if you make people pay a small price for it, they'll be more frugal with what they eat and they won't throw it at each other and pour all the salt and pepper into a glass of orange juice like at my old school and if we're talking about finances your priority as a parent is your kids, if you can't pay for food each day it's time to start asking yourself what useless junk you are spending your money on and it should go without saying that you should probably be financially prepared to raise a kid, too the average cost to raise a child to adulthood is around $250,000, if you're not willing to commit that much money or you can't, then don't have kids, or make them contribute to the family's finances by working too |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on February 24, 2017, 06:45:56 PM ---meanwhile my school is running a campaign against wasting food didn't John Oliver talk about how insane the food waste in this country is? if you make people pay a small price for it, they'll be more frugal with what they eat and they won't throw it at each other and pour all the salt and pepper into a glass of orange juice like at my old school and if we're talking about finances your priority as a parent is your kids, if you can't pay for food each day it's time to start asking yourself what useless junk you are spending your money on and it should go without saying that you should probably be financially prepared to raise a kid, too the average cost to raise a child to adulthood is around $250,000, if you're not willing to commit that much money or you can't, then don't have kids, or make them contribute to the family's finances by working too --- End quote --- I'm all for a campaign against wasted food, that would definitely save money and feed more people. Maybe instead they could package up wasted food and bring it to the local homeless shelter, then it's not entirely a waste. The point of free and reduced lunch is so children won't have to starve due to their parents bad financial decisions. This whole thing about 'its the parents fault that they're wasting money' sounds correct but the child should still receive free lunch, since punishing the child for their parents mistakes is cruel and idiotic. Also keep in mind that in many states you're not allowed to work until 16, and children from 5-18 years old are eligible for free or reduced lunch. This means that your 'making kids contribute' aspect is also moot. Either way, working part-time as a student returns like 3,000 a year and forcing a child to pay for their own school lunch as an institution is criminal, especially if they earn that little and are doing it part-time for themselves |
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