Thousands of ICE detainees claim they were forced into slave labor

[beachbum111111]

lmao @ people trying to defend forcing people into slave labour

ignoring Matt, this is not slavery, this is indentured servitude, which is different in several ways in that those under contract would be freed after a given period of time and they would be housed, fed, and paid, all of which is what's happening here
so to call it slavery is ignorant if not biased against the agency

as for private prisons, yes I'm against them, the recidivism rates alone are enough to turn me off to the idea

but having prisoners work? aren't you prison reformers talking about giving these people the skills to do well in society? so they can't work for their crimes but they can get an education? seems kind of hypocritical to me, besides it'd be better that they be worked to their limits rather than them beat the stuff out of each other and assforget the weaker ones some more

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[Ipquarx]

It literally fits the dictionary definition of slavery. You're forced into hard labor against your will and have no way of getting yourself out of it. Even if it is legal, there's no way in hell it's moral. Trying to use that argument to defend it is detestable.

[DrenDran]

lmao @ people trying to defend forcing people into slave labour

I mean it's been practiced throughout history. It's not really unprecedented.
Personally I, and apparently many others here, find a bit of slavery in the right situations perfectly okay.

[Darryl McKoy]

I mean it's been practiced throughout history. It's not really unprecedented.

Neither is genocide historically speaking. Probably not the best yardstick.

[Nonnel]

Neither is genocide historically speaking. Probably not the best yardstick.

mind who you're talking to

[Kearn]

set up expedited courts to convict people of illegal alien status and sentence them to forced labor to build the wall imo

[Master Matthew²]

set up expedited courts to convict people of illegal alien status and sentence them to forced labor to build the wall imo

Yes, do this.
Mexico will pay for the wall.

[Conan]

Neither is genocide historically speaking. Probably not the best yardstick.

to add onto this, a non-trivial number people also think genocide is okay at times. just because some find it perfectly okay doesn't make it humane.

[RedGajin]

the thing is illegal immigrants aren't (for the most part) hard criminals or anything. i agree, prisoners should be put to work during their sentence, but it should depend on the offense. i dont think someone who is serving a month for being caught with weed should be forced into working for that entire month. but a rapist? if youre not gonna kill him then yeah he should be put to work.

imo, crossing the border is not a serious offense. security is so lax, and the precedent of being able to cross it with ease is so established that literally anyone from mexico could do it if they really wanted to. these people aren't hard criminals, so i dont see the point in punishing them in the same way. deporting them is a very viable option, and is what most people want anyways. this is just an easy way for the government to take advantage of very, very cheap labor in a pretty immoral way.

also its literally mexicans stealing your jobs you right wingers should hate this

[LeisureSuit912]

lmao @ people trying to defend forcing people into slave labour

"lmao, if all those pusillanimous individual liberal snowflakes would realize working in the gulag without pay actually stimulates the economy"

[Master Matthew²]

"lmao, if all those pusillanimous individual liberal snowflakes would realize working in the gulag without pay actually stimulates the economy"

Well their criminals, so they deserve punishment

[IkeTheGeneric]

Well their criminals, so they deserve punishment

The problem is that the government defines what a criminal is, and governments aren't 100% infallible. Considering you identify as a conservative, you should loving know this.

It doesn't take long with this mindset until all political dissent is considered criminal behavior and you have indentured slaves who were enemies of the state until being detained.

[SlayerZ99]

Well their criminals, so they deserve punishment

you're criminally stupid. does that count???

[Gytyyhgfffff]

ignoring Matt, this is not slavery, this is indentured servitude, which is different in several ways in that those under contract would be freed after a given period of time and they would be housed, fed, and paid, all of which is what's happening here

historically people who were indentured servants and were promised stuff like housing and money n stuff after their contract was over never got those promises. considering these are immigrants being exploited for labor they're probably not being given jack cause they can't exactly speak up about it and be taken seriously

[Kochieboy]

It literally fits the dictionary definition of slavery. You're forced into hard labor against your will and have no way of getting yourself out of it. Even if it is legal, there's no way in hell it's moral. Trying to use that argument to defend it is detestable.

Uhhhhhhhh no... it's indentured servitude and we still work criminals anyways as free labor.