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transloveuality as a mental disability - discussion
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Pecon:

--- Quote from: Planr on March 22, 2017, 12:39:40 AM ---How about mentally ill people who murder others and blame it on their mental illness? Their body told them to kill their family member or neighbor. They did not get to decide that.

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No, they did not. That's why we send them to mental institutions instead of prison. 'Plea insanity' is a real defense.


--- Quote from: Planr on March 22, 2017, 12:39:40 AM ---yes. there are many historical accounts of people who have chosen not eat, and died as a result.

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They may have decided not to eat, but could they decide to not feel hunger? It no doubt was an excruciating death.
Ninja Decoy:
According to planr homoloveuals and trans people are equal to murderers and cant control themselves around a bag of oreos.
Steve5451²:

--- Quote from: Planr on March 22, 2017, 12:36:22 AM ---i have a strong attraction to this bag of oreos next to me, therefore i had no choice but to eat it.

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homoloveuality isn't the act of same love relations. it's the attraction. you can never even look at a man and still be a homoloveual. what I just described is feeling one way without acting on it. that doesn't change the fact that you still have the desire.
King of the Bill:
pretty sure planr is either trolling or legitimately handicapped, can't tell which and honestly i'm not sure the difference really matters here on the BLF.
Planr:

--- Quote from: Pecon on March 22, 2017, 12:41:38 AM ---No, they did not. That's why we send them to mental institutions instead of prison. 'Plea insanity' is a real defense.

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I was being sarcastic, they still made the choice to murder others. They had a very strong urge to kill people, but that did not take away their right to choose. Your body cannot take control and aim a gun and shoot someone. You choose to do that yourself with your own mind.

Plea insanity being established by governments as a defense in criminal cases does not change whether or not the individual ultimately made the choice to kill someone. Governments can decide how to respond to the actions you make.


--- Quote from: Ninja Decoy on March 22, 2017, 12:43:36 AM ---According to planr homoloveuals and trans people are equal to murderers and cant control themselves around a bag of oreos.

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I concede that sounds hilarious, but that's a total strawman of what I was saying. What i'm saying is that murdering someone, having love with men, and eating a bag of oreos are equally all choices we make. We may have factors influencing how we feel about those actions, either finding them appealing or disgusting, but we ultimately make the choice of what to do.

You can change the factors influencing your behavior as well. Men with low testosterone can take testosterone supplements to increase their loveual desires. Companies produce advertisements to create a desire in viewers to buy their product.
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