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Annoying Orange has signed S.J. Res 34
beachbum111111:
I mean worrying about companies selling your information (things many, if not most social media sites already do) is one thing, but you are delusional if your pissed off about your privacy being violated or being spied on considering what the NSA does.
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 04, 2017, 06:41:21 PM ---but you are delusional if your pissed off about your privacy being violated or being spied on considering what the NSA does.
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So we shouldn't prevent ISPs from violating our privacy... because there are public agencies that do the same thing?
No, that's handicapped. We should prevent both ISPs and public agencies from violating our privacy.
Also, how does that actually constitute 'delusion'? I'm well aware of the fact the NSA spies on me. Why is that supposed to change my view on ISPs selling my private information?
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on April 04, 2017, 06:43:45 PM ---So we shouldn't prevent ISPs from violating our privacy... because there are public agencies that do the same thing?
No, that's handicapped. We should prevent both ISPs and public agencies from violating our privacy.
Also, how does that actually constitute 'delusion'? I'm well aware of the fact the NSA spies on me. Why is that supposed to change my view on ISPs selling my private information?
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This is more about people freaking out as if this is the end of the internet as we know it and rushing to grab a VPN. Nothing will really change.
Pecon:
--- Quote from: Super Suit 12 on April 04, 2017, 05:46:55 PM ---your ISP just sees what sites you connect to, but not what you do
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Anything that isn't encrypted can be collected and sold by your ISP. Steam, for example, uses no encryption whatsoever. Your login information, chat history, and all your account activity that isn't handled through one of steam's web api's (because their website is https). So in reality,
--- Quote from: Super Suit 12 on April 04, 2017, 05:46:55 PM ---Signed into steam (Username: BobMcJoe Password: imgay), talked to friend about gay stuff
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They already have this information.
You're naive if you think that the majority of your communications are encrypted.
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 04, 2017, 06:47:03 PM ---This is more about people freaking out as if this is the end of the internet as we know it and rushing to grab a VPN. Nothing will really change.
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You can literally make the same cop-out, regardless of what law is being passed. $25/hr minimum wage? Psh, they woulda done it eventually. Assault rifle ban? Government could just take your guns if they wanted.
If Obama pulled similar bullstuff against something you valued, you would lose your stuff. The 'not the end of the world argument' would seem just as stupid to you as it does to me right now.