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[NEWS] Murder-Self Delete at Cali. elementary school kills 3, wounds 1
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Planr:

--- Quote from: EcstaticEggplant on April 10, 2017, 04:56:08 PM ---its a class of little children. you really don't need arm all adults in an elementary school because of extremely rare shooting incidents. what if the gun is accidentally discharged, or a little kid gets a hold of it? im 100% sure the latter would occur way more often than a shooting incident like this.

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In almost all incidents where a child got ahold of and accidentally fired a loaded gun, it was because the gun owner/parent was not responsible with how they stored or kept the gun.

Case in point


--- Quote from: EcstaticEggplant on April 10, 2017, 04:56:08 PM ---its a class of little children. you really don't need arm all adults in an elementary school because of extremely rare shooting incidents. what if the gun is accidentally discharged, or a little kid gets a hold of it? im 100% sure the latter would occur way more often than a shooting incident like this.

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Fires incidents in schools are rare, we should get rid of fire extinguishers in schools too.
King Tøny:
I once had an argument with this handicap that was anti gun.


He said we should ban all guns and increase laws to prevent people from owning them.

So I said "this is only going to take guns away from law abiding citizens, criminals can still illegally obtain guns and it's worse because they aren't on registered gun owner lists"

He said "well rape is illegal but people still do it, what's your point."

My point is now you have good people who aren't able to get guns to defend themselves from bad people who still can get guns.
Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: Planr on April 10, 2017, 05:05:01 PM ---In almost all incidents where a child got ahold of and accidentally fired a loaded gun, it was because the gun owner/parent was not responsible with how they stored or kept the gun.

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--- Quote from: Ipquarx on April 10, 2017, 04:59:01 PM ---Never underestimate the incompetence of schools

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--- Quote from: Planr on April 10, 2017, 05:05:01 PM ---Fires incidents in schools are rare, we should get rid of fire extinguishers in schools too.

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Not that I don't support responsible use of guns for security, but fire extinguishers are not comparable to guns. That's an apples to oranges comparison.
Insert Name Here²:

--- Quote from: King Tøny on April 10, 2017, 05:06:40 PM ---I once had an argument with this handicap that was anti gun.


He said we should ban all guns and increase laws to prevent people from owning them.

So I said "this is only going to take guns away from law abiding citizens, criminals can still illegally obtain guns and it's worse because they aren't on registered gun owner lists"

He said "well rape is illegal but people still do it, what's your point."

My point is now you have good people who aren't able to get guns to defend themselves from bad people who still can get guns.

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Woah tony actually has a good point in this situation
EcstaticEggplant:

--- Quote from: Planr on April 10, 2017, 05:05:01 PM ---Fires incidents in schools are rare, we should get rid of fire extinguishers in schools too.

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Fires in an elementary school are a lot less rare than somebody shooting up the place. you tell me how many fires there compared to shootings in an elementary school.
Also fire extinguishers are a lot less harmful than guns. if a kid got a hold of one it could be taken off of him pretty easily, but a gun is a whole other story.

just saying im not anti gun, i just think its pretty unnecessary to supply all adults in an elementary school with loaded guns, concealed or not.
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