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[NEWS] Murder-Self Delete at Cali. elementary school kills 3, wounds 1
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Darryl McKoy:

--- Quote from: Bisjac on April 10, 2017, 06:40:57 PM ---we had to kick out the brits, and guns were needed, and since then were needed to prevent them (or others) again.
austrailia is a dump no one wanted, even the people that were put there.

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I mean we started with guns too, we just came to our senses after the first large massacre

I agree it's not worth comparison though. If a bunch of kindergartens can be brutally murdered in a mass shooting and nothing happens, US culture is not going to change.
IkeTheGeneric:
I don't really think the victim being armed here would have made a difference if the homicide was premeditated and she was specifically targeted. I know y'all like to wank your self defense fantasies but in a realistic scenario where somebody's trying to shoot you with a concealed handgun, the window to react while surprised is astronomically small, especially for an untrained citizen.

It could've made a difference, but it most likely wouldn't have.
Bisjac:
american students have a lot more moments of "i have nothing left to lose".
its not some bullstuff mental illness though. its the entire broken system and failed generation(s).
mod-man:

--- Quote from: Bisjac on April 10, 2017, 06:45:00 PM ---where all lockdowns did was gather students into nice balls in corners of rooms for the picking lol.

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and lets not forget about the fact that the police's primary goal is to maintain the situation. taking care of it isn't a priority. thats a job for the big boys with the big guns

it took the SWAT team nearly an hour to even enter columbine, and that was after the entire 20 minute shooting
IkeTheGeneric:

--- Quote from: Bisjac on April 10, 2017, 06:52:05 PM ---its not some bullstuff mental illness though. its the entire broken system and failed generation(s).

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Is it really one or the other? Why not both? America doesn't necessarily have that great of a track record when it comes to mental illness.
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