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[NEWS] Murder-Self Delete at Cali. elementary school kills 3, wounds 1
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Tayasaurus:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on April 10, 2017, 06:52:01 PM ---I don't really think the victim being armed here would have made a difference if the homicide was premeditated and she was specifically targeted. I know y'all like to wank your self defense fantasies but in a realistic scenario where somebody's trying to shoot you with a concealed handgun, the window to react while surprised is astronomically small, especially for an untrained citizen.

It could've made a difference, but it most likely wouldn't have.

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I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.
beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: Tayasaurus on April 10, 2017, 06:55:12 PM ---I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

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So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it
Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 10, 2017, 06:46:58 PM ---It's a good thing its so easy to make chlorine gas.

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It's actually true that it's disturbingly easy to make chlorine gas


--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 10, 2017, 06:56:08 PM ---So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it

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Lmao what are you talking about
Tayasaurus:

--- Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 10, 2017, 06:56:08 PM ---So the solution is to make everyone more suicidal. Got it

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No? I'm curious where you derived that.
IkeTheGeneric:

--- Quote from: Tayasaurus on April 10, 2017, 06:55:12 PM ---I don't think anyone here has disagreed with the fact that the death wasn't preventable. We can think idealistically how it should of been all we want but the reality was that all the cards were dealt before it even began. I'm speculating for the future really in how we can increase security to prevent situations like this from becoming another Gritty Grapnel. If he hadn't shot himself there could have been a lot more trouble for this school.

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More support for schools hiring security guards would help, but these situations really can't be prevented. I agree that increased security would be a good idea, but you're always going to have those NIMBY hacks who will complain about people carrying guns in their children's schools, and these are the sort of parents who the school boards pander to.
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