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Sign this petition to declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization
Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Drydess on April 16, 2017, 10:51:30 PM ---cappy all the views of the right and left have swapped in the past 100 years
of course not all right dudes are national socialists but where do you think the confederates would align themselves with in modern day
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--- Quote from: Cappytaino on April 16, 2017, 10:48:34 PM ---You can't be delusional enough to insinuate that the Democratic Party does not have historically tribal roots, while the Republican Party was not formed to free and protect the rights of the former slaves. If you honestly believe that, I really don't know what else to say, because you must be denser than a black hole and about as bright if you can't see the countless pieces of historical evidence which contradict your point.
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Ipquarx:
--- Quote from: kingmims on April 16, 2017, 10:38:20 PM ---The views of the thread is irrelevant because anyone can share the link to people who would never open the thread. The signature per hour of this petition was just about 1 or 2 but ever since this morning it's been at least 30 or 40.
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If you think even a tenth of the people who view the thread sign the petition then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think even a tenth of those people share it to 1 other person tops, then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think even a tenth of the people who had it shared to them signed it, then I have a bridge to sell you.
We might have gotten it like 100 signatures, tops.
Poliwhirl:
they're pointing out the fact that there was a major political ideology shift for the republican and democratic party. the idea that modern republicans are primarily concerned with equality is laughable.
kingmims:
--- Quote from: Ipquarx on April 16, 2017, 11:00:11 PM ---If you think even a tenth of the people who view the thread sign the petition then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think even a tenth of those people share it to 1 other person tops, then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you think even a tenth of the people who had it shared to them signed it, then I have a bridge to sell you.
We might have gotten it like 100 signatures, tops.
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Then why has the signature rate increased exponentially coincedentaly since the beginning of this thread? I have been sitting here refreshing it watching the amount of needed signatures dwindle ever since 11am.
Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: Drydess on April 16, 2017, 10:51:30 PM ---cappy all the views of the right and left have swapped in the past 100 years
of course not all right dudes are national socialists but where do you think the confederates would align themselves with in modern day
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The National Socialist party exemplified many values that actually are much better aligned with the modern left than the right wing.
If you look here, you'll see many of their policies can be considered to be fairly "centrist" but there are also many which align with values espoused by modern liberals. Some key examples are:
* Expansion of worker's pensions
* Nationalization of Industry
* Seizure and redistribution of wealth and property, particularly that of corporations
* Formation of a large central government to enforce said nationalization and seizure of industry and capital
* Forbidding the charging or earning of interest (referred to here as "debt slavery")
* Providing work and livelihood for citizens is the responsibility of the State
* Their motto of "The common good before the individual good"
While they did have some weird immigration policy, I don't see why people associate national socialists with the right wing. Neo-national socialists are scum and are in no way representative of conservative values, as national socialistsm at its core isn't a right wing ideology if you examine the platform of the NSDAP.
--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on April 16, 2017, 11:00:50 PM ---they're pointing out the fact that there was a major political ideology shift for the republican and democratic party. the idea that modern republicans are primarily concerned with equality is laughable.
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Modern conservatism is about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. Conservatives stand for equality, but it isn't the same kind as Progressives want.