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[NEWS] Confederate monuments are being torn down in the South
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otto-san:

--- Quote from: Wesley Williams on April 26, 2017, 07:07:06 PM ---Rewriting history sure, but not removing/hiding history. I'm not sure as to what Corderlain and Master Matthew were talking about, liberals love talking about America's tribal past.

For those interested in what people mean by liberals rewriting history to support their bias, check out what the College Board did with the AP United States History curriculum in 2014 and 2015. They rewrote it to revolve around struggles for peoples' rights and acceptance, there was a big conservative backlash, they ignored conservative complaints, then people threatened to use a competing business and they decided to re-revise their curriculum.

Coming from a background of public education in California, I can confirm that history and just about everything is presented from a liberal viewpoint, with teachers offering little compromise on their presentation of the material. I still remember when my APUSH teacher told the class that Fox News and MSNBC were conservative and liberal networks, while CNN was a neutral network that showed stories without any real bias. Good stuff.

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i do have some sympathy for people who make history curricula, especially AP classes and similar levels. that's a ton of information to shove into a few months, and you definitely have to make some tough decisions about what makes the cut and what doesn't. presenting that information in a manner that's free of current cultural or personal influences is also pretty difficult. they probably also have to think about making sure to have information that's relevant to current cultural trends to make sure students can draw connections and learn relevant information at the same time
Drydess:

--- Quote from: Wesley Williams on April 26, 2017, 07:12:50 PM ---The states of the Confederacy are a part of the United States, so we shouldn't respect people from that part of the United States? I'm not saying there's any need to respect rebellion, but you have to keep in mind these are Americans we're talking about.

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labeling someone as "from the confederate states" is considerably different than labeling someone as "confederate"
Wesley Williams:

--- Quote from: otto-san on April 26, 2017, 07:14:02 PM ---i do have some sympathy for people who make history curricula, especially AP classes and similar levels. that's a ton of information to shove into a few months, and you definitely have to make some tough decisions about what makes the cut and what doesn't. presenting that information in a manner that's free of current cultural or personal influences is also pretty difficult. they probably also have to think about making sure to have information that's relevant to current cultural trends to make sure students can draw connections and learn relevant information at the same time

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That may very well be true, personally I would prefer if history is presented from a global, all-encompassing perspective rather than cater to cultural trends. The past hasn't changed, and it would be nice if we could just present the facts and all perspectives such that the curriculum remains static.
otto-san:

--- Quote from: Wesley Williams on April 26, 2017, 07:18:11 PM ---That may very well be true, personally I would prefer if history is presented from a global, all-encompassing perspective rather than cater to cultural trends. The past hasn't changed, and it would be nice if we could just present the facts and all perspectives such that the curriculum remains static.

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yeah, that'd obvs be ideal. tho, as always, presenting facts in a completely objective manner when you've got human beings writing the stuff out is a pretty difficult task. and when you're trying to educate students, oftentimes purely objective writing isn't the most effective way to get the point across. i do agree tho that people putting the material together should defo try their best to remain as objective as possible
Nonnel:
History of Americans' struggles for human rights seems like a good fit for a country that was based on the concept of basic freedoms and inalienable rights
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