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| [NEWS] Confederate monuments are being torn down in the South |
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| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: SWAT One on April 25, 2017, 03:11:10 PM ---Wait hang on are we talking monuments or memorials here? --- End quote --- its a combination of both. for example, one that was removed in the article was originally a memorial to people who died in an uprising in the area. they later changed the actual script on it to say "honoring people who were lost on both sides of the fight, so that it may never happen again" or something along those lines |
| Poliwhirl:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 25, 2017, 12:36:19 PM ---I'm particularly appalled at the lack of respect for history here "but muh white supremasseeeeeeeeeeee-" the Japanese internment camps are kept up, and so is Auschwitz, why can't these be kept up? because they make you uncomfortable? too bad, just move because they inspire tribals? no they don't, not anymore, that stuff's been moved online because it honors tribals? too bad, they did a lot of good (or bad) to get made into a monument while you do jack stuff working at home and sipping your Starbucks like a loving weeb you could argue that everyone who's ever been made into a statue has had discriminatory tendencies, but you wouldn't dare ask that every single statue everywhere be taken down, so sit the forget down and keep sipping that latte friend, it's time you learned your nation's goddamn loving history Christ that kinda turned into a rant didn't it --- End quote --- Auschwitz and the internment camps were kept up as a symbolic reminder to never forget the victims of those events, because that's where the victims were held. nobody in their right mind would keep up a statue praising Riddler / the national socialists, the aggressors, because its loving outrageous to glorify them. in case you yourself don't know stuff about history, the confederacy wasnt the victim of the civil war, so there's no reason to glorify their place in history at all. the fact that you think some southerners fighting tooth and nail to keep actual human beings enslaved is anywhere near as worthy of recognition as the victims of the holocaust is ridiculous. nice line about the latte, though. being conservative totally makes you a tough guy. |
| SWAT One:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 25, 2017, 03:14:54 PM ---both are equally important --- End quote --- I would disagree. Both might inspire a culture of rebellion and racism, but one actually commemorates the deaths of many. I think it is good to remove the monuments, but not the memorials. Removing memorials might feel good to those on the left, but it doesn't do good. The west applauded when Turkey and Iran became secular and intellectual states in the mid to late-20th century, and they abolished cruel, archaic and punitive laws at the time. In this case, it does good. |
| otto-san:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 25, 2017, 03:11:06 PM ---there is from what I've heard there's plans to take down several more statues of confederate figureheads later in the week --- End quote --- they're all in new orleans though, right? |
| Nonnel:
unless the memorials are commemorating the slaves, they're not really important |
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