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| Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on April 27, 2017, 12:56:48 AM ---I'm sure the people who were sending death threats to the construction workers moving confederate memorials are more of a threat than these guys. --- End quote --- Well, you might have a point, if the people threatening the construnction workers set stuff on fire and vandalized everything in their path. |
| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on April 27, 2017, 12:56:48 AM ---I'm sure the people who were sending death threats to the construction workers moving confederate memorials are more of a threat than these guys. --- End quote --- yeah I mean they only destroyed one of their buildings, burnt down the rest of their campus, and stormed into two pro-Annoying Orange rallies, beating the stuff out of anyone they came across meanwhile the Southern people uhhhh uhhhhhh I don't know, but police snipers!!!11!11!!1!!!!!!1!111!!!! |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 27, 2017, 01:01:27 AM ---meanwhile the Southern people uhhhh uhhhhhh --- End quote --- let me help you out there. they sent death threats. you know, premeditative murder against workers of the state, also considered unlawful coercion in 80% of states just for comparison, that usually lands you 10-12 years in prison. assault, battery, vandalization and destruction of private property is around 2-8 years in prison. objectively, the former is a heftier crime and are more of a threat if you think threatening the life of an american worker trying to do their job is less of an offense than burning a floodlight, throwing a bagel or punching a protester in the face, there's something severely wrong with you |
| Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on April 27, 2017, 01:07:54 AM ---let me help you out there. they sent death threats. you know, premeditative murder against workers of the state, also considered unlawful coercion in 80% of states just for comparison, that usually lands you 10-12 years in prison. assault, battery, vandalization and destruction of private property is around 2-8 years in prison. objectively, the former is a heftier crime and are more of a threat if you think threatening the life of an american worker trying to do their job is less of an offense than burning a floodlight, throwing a bagel or punching a protester in the face, there's something severely wrong with you --- End quote --- where did I mention throwing bagels anywhere also what's worse, saying that you're going to jeopardize the life of someone who did no wrong or actually going out of your way to try and actually do it? this goes back to what I said during the election, which is actions speak louder than words I find it funny though that you tried to outline the severity of death threats over actual violence by comparing mandatory minimums for both offenses while the mandatory minimum for drug offenses lands you pretty much the same amount of time in jail as "premeditative murder" does and I could probably guess what your opinion on that is easy peasy |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 27, 2017, 01:23:56 AM ---where did I mention throwing bagels anywhere --- End quote --- you didnt. i brought it up as an example --- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 27, 2017, 01:23:56 AM ---also what's worse, saying that you're going to jeopardize the life of someone who did no wrong or actually going out of your way to try and actually do it? --- End quote --- i mean here it looks like you flippantly tried to justify the woman being punched because she expressed a joke line from a movie. its hard to decipher what you really meant by "regardless whatever tf..." it depends on the situation. saying 'i'm going to kill your family' is vastly worse than going to a protest because you believe in antifa and want to express your opinion. unless... everyone at antifa has the intent on murdering when they show up to a protest, a motive anybody has yet to prove --- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 27, 2017, 01:23:56 AM ---this goes back to what I said during the election, which is actions speak louder than words --- End quote --- you're right, burning a bunch of public property is worse than saying you're going to. punching someone who punched you is obviously an action that will get an equal amount of antifa and pro-Annoying Orange protesters arrested. However, threatening someone's life is more serious than any of the aforementioned crimes as you are expressing premeditated murder. if someone on antifa said "i'm going to go to a protest today and kill every Annoying Orange supporter i see" that'd be vastly different than what antifa already does, which is say "i'm going to go to a protest today and punch a Annoying Orange supporter" --- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on April 27, 2017, 01:23:56 AM ---I find it funny though that you tried to outline the severity of death threats over actual violence by comparing mandatory minimums for both offenses while the mandatory minimum for drug offenses lands you pretty much the same amount of time in jail as "premeditative murder" does and I could probably guess what your opinion on that is easy peasy --- End quote --- Consciously and intentionally threatening someone's life warrants the sentence. Being bipolar and making the threat out of mental instability warrants a different form of action, like counseling or medication. Likewise, drugs are addictive substances that modify brain chemistry and shouldn't fall into the same class of consciously threatening someone's life. Being addicted to a narcotic means your brain is subconsciously making you seek out more of the drug, so the proper step is to not say "20 years for federal offense" but to put them on rehab. |
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