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| Nonnel:
--- Quote from: Zloff on May 01, 2017, 11:44:24 AM ---whats stopping vlad from growing vegetables or dalis from making furniture in their free time and selling/trading the items, making them much wealthier than their comrades? will anyone confiscate their items and redistribute them? who's going to send vlad and dalis to the gulag for being capitalistic pigs? you can't "legally" force any sort of equality if you have no "legal" body to instate and enforce it --- End quote --- Communism isn't the idea that everyone has the same amount of wealth, just that there isn't an upper class holding most of the wealth. Doctors will still get paid more than fast food workers, for example, but the CEO of McDonald's won't get billions of dollars for sitting at their desk two days a week signing their name on things |
| Zloff:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on May 01, 2017, 12:00:22 PM ---but the CEO of McDonald's won't get billions of dollars for sitting at their desk two days a week signing their name on things --- End quote --- rephrasing what i asked: what/who is stopping a man from purchasing/building his own means of production, starting a company, hiring workers, and expanding to a point of success where he only has to sit at his desk twice a week and sign things in order to earn billions? |
| Poliwhirl:
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| Nonnel:
--- Quote from: Zloff on May 01, 2017, 12:22:47 PM ---rephrasing what i asked: what/who is stopping a man from purchasing/building his own means of production, starting a company, hiring workers, and expanding to a point of success where he only has to sit at his desk twice a week and sign things in order to earn billions? --- End quote --- yeah I dunno |
| Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: LeisureSuit912 on May 01, 2017, 09:44:09 AM ---Has antifa become some kind of bogeyman for the right That's not quite true, communism's ultimate goal is abolishing the state and just having citizens own the means of production. --- End quote --- Communism is the forcible seizure of the means of production through force aka theft. Just because some government is involved doesn't mean it isn't theft to seize and redistribute private property. --- Quote from: Nonnel on May 01, 2017, 12:00:22 PM ---Communism isn't the idea that everyone has the same amount of wealth, just that there isn't an upper class holding most of the wealth. Doctors will still get paid more than fast food workers, for example, but the CEO of McDonald's won't get billions of dollars for sitting at their desk two days a week signing their name on things --- End quote --- but then why go to medical school? Unless you REALLY want to be a doctor in a communist system, why wouldn't you just go flip burgers if the difference in quality of life for yourself isn't much more at the end of the day? What's the incentive to overachieve? |
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