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"See how machine learning is helping us tackle gender bias in movies."
torin²:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on May 16, 2017, 02:44:11 PM ---ALL WOMEN ARE QUEENS
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pffft. typical thot enabler
Poliwhirl:
--- Quote from: Rally on May 16, 2017, 12:48:51 PM ---Rey was a garbage Mary Sue character and a perfect example of why hamfisting 2D "muh strong female lead" characters into stories they don't belong in is a terrible idea. If people want more stories about women they should write more stories about women instead of calling other writers loveist or gender bias or whatever because they don't hit arbitrary diversity standards in their fiction.
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doesnt have anything to so with her being a female, they just couldn't write a good character
torin²:
--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on May 16, 2017, 02:52:36 PM ---doesnt have anything to so with her being a female, they just couldn't write a good character
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it goes hand in hand
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on May 16, 2017, 12:58:54 PM ---this may be up there on the list of "dumbest applications of neural networks"
why is it inherently a bad thing for a movie's cast to have a gender imbalance? if a writer makes roles for more males or more females, what does it matter? am I missing the point or does someone just get really butthurt and think women are deliberately being written out of films to oppress them or w.e?
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There isn't really a problem with individual movies having a gender imbalance. For example, something like Mad Men naturally wouldn't have a lot of women. But if most movies are dominated by male characters, (which they seem to be) it speaks to a few possible explanations:
1. People don't find movies with women interesting
If this is actually the reason I think we should brown townyze why people find movies with women uninteresting. I don't think women are inherently uninteresting. It could be a cultural thing. Maybe we're socialized to find stories about men more interesting. (either incidentally or because they're men) No matter what, it's a phenomenon worth exploring.
2. Movie-writing is a male-dominated industry and male writers don't write about women for some reason
We should brown townyze what is keeping women out of movie-writing. Movie-writing is similar to writing novels and there seems to be a pretty even gender ratio in that; that would make the reason seem to be environmental rather than some natural aversion to movie-writing.
Also, men should learn how to write women characters / about women if they can't. Why can't men write women? (if that's the reason) Women are just people. Men being unable to write women would seem to mean that men and women find eachother alien which I don't think is necessarily natural or healthy.
And regardless of the explanation, having a media where people are underrepresented has a marginalizing effect on those underrepresented groups.
torin²:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on May 16, 2017, 02:58:30 PM ---There isn't really a problem with individual movies having a gender imbalance. For example, something like Mad Men naturally wouldn't have a lot of women. But if most movies are dominated by male characters, (which they seem to be) it speaks to a few possible explanations:
1. People don't find movies with women interesting
If this is actually the reason I think we should brown townyze why people find movies with women uninteresting. I don't think women are inherently uninteresting. It could be a cultural thing. Maybe we're socialized to find stories about men more interesting. (either incidentally or because they're men) No matter what, it's a phenomenon worth exploring.
2. Movie-writing is a male-dominated industry and male writers don't write about women for some reason
We should brown townyze what is keeping women out of movie-writing. Movie-writing is similar to writing novels and there seems to be a pretty even gender ratio in that; that would make the reason seem to be environmental rather than some natural aversion to movie-writing.
Also, men should learn how to write women characters / about women if they can't. Why can't men write women? (if that's the reason) Women are just people. Men being unable to write women would seem to mean that men and women find eachother alien which I don't think is necessarily natural or healthy.
And regardless of the explanation, having a media where people are underrepresented has a marginalizing effect on those underrepresented groups.
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yeah maybe because women cant make good movies