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"See how machine learning is helping us tackle gender bias in movies."
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Tactical Nuke:
THEY ACTUALLY GAVE REY A SPOTLIGHT AND THEY SAID

"we put rey in the movie because she was a strong female character that would never ever quit" (not exact quote)

yeah she never ever quits because she's a mary sue who learns the force immediately through "dumb luck" and is just generally exceptional at everything ever

this is what happens when you try "tackling gender bias", you put the gender of your character before the character itself and you end up with a stuff character
otto-san:

--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on May 16, 2017, 04:34:08 PM ---THEY ACTUALLY GAVE REY A SPOTLIGHT AND THEY SAID

"we put rey in the movie because she was a strong female character that would never ever quit" (not exact quote)

yeah she never ever quits because she's a mary sue who learns the force immediately through "dumb luck" and is just generally exceptional at everything ever

this is what happens when you try "tackling gender bias", you put the gender of your character before the character itself and you end up with a stuff character

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i wonder if there's a tv tropes page for this, because i'm sure it's common enough to deserve one. characters that exist purely to reject traditional archetypes are really common, and they're almost always weaker than if you just wrote them like a normal person
SeventhSandwich:

--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on May 16, 2017, 04:34:08 PM ---yeah she never ever quits because she's a mary sue who learns the force immediately through "dumb luck" and is just generally exceptional at everything ever

this is what happens when you try "tackling gender bias", you put the gender of your character before the character itself and you end up with a stuff character

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To some extent, I agree with this sentiment. I think the way to fix gender inequality in fiction (and stuffty mary sues as well) would be to get more female writers on TV shows and movies. They will naturally be able to write more realistic female characters, and the characters won't be 'forced to be female'.
Rally:

--- Quote from: Poliwhirl on May 16, 2017, 02:52:36 PM ---doesnt have anything to so with her being a female

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are you agreeing with me or did you misinterpret my post on purpose or something
torin²:

--- Quote from: otto-san on May 16, 2017, 04:59:04 PM ---i wonder if there's a tv tropes page for this, because i'm sure it's common enough to deserve one. characters that exist purely to reject traditional archetypes are really common, and they're almost always weaker than if you just wrote them like a normal person

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tv tropes is leftist as forget
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