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"See how machine learning is helping us tackle gender bias in movies."
otto-san:
--- Quote from: Alteration on May 16, 2017, 06:22:53 PM ---I don't get why people think we're "brainwashed" into gender stereotypes. There are definitely some things that men/women are expected of that suck but for the most part almost every guy I know likes stereotypical "guy stuff" and the same with women. I hang out with my friends and we play Halo, rock some Pantera, and make bonfires; when my sister invites her friends over they paint their nails, talk about boys, and watch rom-coms. And we weren't "brainwashed" for sure: I played barbies with my sister when I was a kid and she played my hot wheels video games. We enjoy what we enjoy but it's mostly what people think of as "gender-specific" stuff. Maybe it's just us idk
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that's just how gender socialization works. it's not really 'brainwashing' per se, it's just a part of how people grow into their cultures.
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on May 16, 2017, 05:29:09 PM ---To some extent, I agree with this sentiment. I think the way to fix gender inequality in fiction (and stuffty mary sues as well) would be to get more female writers on TV shows and movies. They will naturally be able to write more realistic female characters, and the characters won't be 'forced to be female'.
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that creates the exact same problem
the creative team behind the new Ghostbusters movie, aside from Paul Feig, was almost entirely women
they boasted about it too
they came up with one of the stufftiest reboots of all time and bar none the stufftiest movie of 2016
if you hire writers based on gender you're not going to get the best, you have to put skill and talent first at all times
case in point, some of the strongest female characters of all time, characters who were actually amazing independent of their gender, were created exclusively by men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Ripley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoko_Kusanagi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Leia
Insert Name Here²:
hiring people or casting roles thinking gender first instead of skill, in of itself, is loveist
Nonnel:
I agree hamfisting female characters into stuff is cringy, a la Ghostbusters, but I don't think Star Wars applies. How was she more of a Mary Sue than Luke?
Master Matthew²:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on May 16, 2017, 07:04:05 PM ---I agree hamfisting female characters into stuff is cringy, a la Ghostbusters, but I don't think Star Wars applies. How was she more of a Mary Sue than Luke?
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No, but Star wars is just perpetually forgeted, And It's clearly cursed.
George Lucas forgeted up the Prequels,
Disney is forgetin' up the sequels, and there was only one out so far.
But hey, at least the original stories are okay.